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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    True. But we would lose by about 12 points each game.
    We already do ...

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Nope? Really?.. Thats it?

    Ok, then I say "Nope" to your argument that Amir should be averaging more. Easy enough.
    Read the SI article i referenced, that is my validation.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    We already do ...
    My point exactly Joey! He should score more!

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    SO, to confirm, you agree that BARBOSA should get a higher grade than Bargs? BARBOSA????
    I never said. This is NOT the point I am arguing.
    Stay on Topic here Multi.

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    Read the SI article i referenced, that is my validation.
    Validate it yourself. I'm not having a Debate with SI!
    I'm arguing points YOU made.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I never said. This is NOT the point I am arguing.
    Stay on Topic here Multi.
    What are you arguing?

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Validate it yourself. I'm not having a Debate with SI!
    Then there you go. SI says Bargs deserves his money.

    Clearly, smart ppl working at SI.

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    What are you arguing?
    That Amir deserves his score. And Bargnani deserves His.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    That Amir deserves his score. And Bargnani deserves His.
    LOL, I knew we were talking about something!

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    True. But we would lose by about 12 points each game.
    Right, so Amir scores close to 10PPG in a highly efficient manner and holds down his end on defense. The Raptors lose by six each game and have the 4th worst defense in the league. I don't know, you tell me what the problem is, defense or offense?

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Right, so Amir scores close to 10PPG in a highly efficient manner and holds down his end on defense. The Raptors lose by six each game and have the 4th worst defense in the league. I don't know, you tell me what the problem is, defense or offense?
    I dunno, I think the report cards are biased. People like Amir cuz of his perceived "hustle". I AM an Amir fan, and I dont disagree with his report card, BUT, I think Bargs does as much if not more than Amir, so should get at least the same or higher grade.

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    Andrea does it all on one side. If he played good defense and had average rebounding ability he would deserve an A.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Andrea does it all on one side. If he played good defense and had average rebounding ability he would deserve an A.
    OK, but you must admit, a "C" is too low. 5.2 rebs is low for a center, but his Point Production is very high for a centre. Should at least get a B, Apollo you gotta admit that

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    I don't know. His defense was horrible. He only plays well in one aspect of the game.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I don't know. His defense was horrible. He only plays well in one aspect of the game.
    So do you think Barbosa deserves a higher grade?

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    No. I believe defense is equally important as offense. I also believe Calderon is too high.

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    How bout we do it this way.
    Amir: 24 minutes per game.
    Andrea: 35 minutes per game.

    Amir Offense Rating:
    Plays within the System, doesn't take "Reggie" shots, shoots a high percentage, cleans up the Offensive Glass.
    OVERALL: B-

    Bargs Offense Rating:
    Shoots ALOT of shots. Shoots with SOME consistency, and not generally at a very high percentage clip. Scores ALOT of points in a variety of ways.
    OVERALL: B+

    Amir Defense Rating:
    Hustles, Actually Plays Defense, Guards the Best Big man on the Floor, Rebounds, blocks shots, Fills the Lane, Takes Charges, DOES HIS JOB.
    OVERALL: B+

    Bargs Defense Rating:
    He's tall.
    OVERALL: D-

    Amir Average: (B-) + (B+)= B
    Bargs Average: (B+) + (D-) = C


    This is how I see it anyway.
    Last edited by Joey; Mon Apr 11th, 2011 at 02:51 PM.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    How bout we do it this way.
    Amir: 24 minutes per game.
    Andrea: 35 minutes per game.

    Amir Offense Rating:
    Plays within the System, doesn't take "Reggie" shots, shoots a high percentage, cleans up the Offensive Glass.
    OVERALL: B-

    Bargs Offense Rating:
    Shoots ALOT of shots. Shoots with SOME consistency, and not generally at a very high percentage clip. Scores ALOT of points in a variety of ways.
    OVERALL: B+

    Amir Defense Rating:
    Hustles, Actually Plays Defense, Guards the Best Big man on the Floor, Rebounds, blocks shots, Fills the Lane, Takes Charges, DOES HIS JOB.
    OVERALL: B+

    Bargs Defense Rating:
    He's tall.
    OVERALL: D-

    Amir Average: (B-) + (B+)= B
    Bargs Average: (B+) + (D-) = C


    This is how I see it anyway.
    D- eh

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    Quote Multipaul wrote: View Post
    D- eh
    You disagree?

    ADD Does ANYONE disagree with this assessment for Bargnani's Defense?

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    Multipaul,

    I really don't understand what you have against Amir. The majority of fans and writers said he was the Raptors MVP at the All-Star break, and the only reason they wouldn't say so now is because of DeRozan's play of late and because of Amir's injury. He's easily the team's most productive player, and helps the team on both ends of the court. And to say the guy is overpaid is ridiculous. Just looking at his PER, he's well above average, yet he's making less than the average salary.

    No one denies that Bargnani is a very good offensive player, but even you have to admit he's only useful half the time he's on the court. So if he plays 36 minutes, for approximately 18 minutes he not only doesn't help the team, but hurts it. I don't know how you can realistically give him anything more than a C.

    Amir may only play 26 minutes a game, but he's useful and productive for all those 26 mpg. That's why he gets a higher grade than Bargnani.
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