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  • A deal is much closer than appears

    The new N.B.A. labor deal is practically done. You wouldn’t know it from the headlines, the dour news conferences or the apocalyptic rhetoric spilling from league officials. But the deal, in practical terms, is about 95 percent complete.

    The N.B.A. and the players union have agreed on contract lengths and luxury-tax rates, trade rules and cap exceptions, and a host of oddly named provisions offering “amnesty” and “stretch payments” and less onerous “base-year” rules.

    All of these pieces — some favoring the players, most of them favoring the owners — have fallen into place in recent weeks, even as talks collapsed and restarted and collapsed again. The checklist has been reduced to a few items.

    But it is the last 5 percent that is ruining the prospects for labor peace and gradually eroding the N.B.A. season.

    Tentative agreements are already in place on the following major items:
    Luxury-tax rate: Teams will be charged $1.50 per $1 spent beyond a threshold, replacing the previous dollar-for-dollar tax, according to people who have seen the plan.

    To further discourage spending, the tax will increase for every $5 million spent beyond the threshold: to $1.75 after $5 million, $2.25 after $10 million and $3 after $15 million.

    Under this system, the Los Angeles Lakers would have paid $42.5 million in taxes last season, compared with $20 million under the old formula. (The rates could still change based on other tradeoffs.)
    Contract lengths: Players with “Bird” rights will be eligible for five-year deals, while others will be limited to four. The previous C.B.A. allowed for six-year (Bird) and five-year deals. The 1999 C.B.A. allowed for seven-year (Bird) and six-year deals.
    Raises: Annual raises will be reduced by several percentage points, possibly as low as 5 percent for Bird players and 3.5 percent for non-Bird players. The prior deal allowed raises as high as 10.5 percent (Bird) and 8 percent.
    Midlevel exception: It will start at $5 million, a decrease of $800,000. The contract length and annual raises attached to the exception remain under discussion.
    Amnesty clause: Each team will be permitted to waive one player, with pay — anytime during the life of the C.B.A. — and have his salary be exempt from the cap and the luxury tax. Its use will be limited to players already under contract as of July 1, 2011.
    Stretch exception: Teams will be permitted to stretch out payments to waived players, spreading out the cap hit, over several seasons. The payment schedule will be set by doubling the years left on the contract and adding one. (Thus a team waiving a player with two years left could pay him over five years.)
    There are a few critical issues still under debate. The N.B.A. wants to further punish tax-paying teams by denying them use of the midlevel exception and sign-and-trade deals, and wants additional penalties for “repeat offenders.” The union opposes those measures.

    Nearly all of the new provisions will benefit the owners. In return, the players will gain an easing of trade rules and relaxed regulations on restricted free agents.

    So the broad parameters of an agreement are in place. The gap on the revenue split is significant, but manageable. As N.B.A. officials have said many times, both sides know where the deal is — they just have to get there.
    Source: Howard Beck, New York Times


    SI.com reporting a few different details:

    Resolved

    • Player contract length: Contracts will be shortened from six years to five years for players who have "Bird" rights (which allow teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents) and from five years to four years for non-Bird contracts.

    • Amnesty clause: Each team will be able to waive one player with a previously existing contract without it counting against the salary cap, but it will be available only once per team during the life of the new CBA. While the player will still be paid his full salary, this would allow teams to get rid of a contract that is weighing them down.

    Teams will want to use this sooner rather than later since it cannot be used on new contracts that are signed. It can be used during any year of the player's deal, but must be announced at the start of the season.

    Mostly Resolved

    • Luxury tax: The previous agreement penalized teams on a dollar-for-dollar basis when they went above the luxury tax threshold ($70.3 million last season), but the owners have been adamant about wanting a new system in which the highest-spending teams are reined in. The league's latest proposal on this issue looks like this and has been agreed to by the players:

    Teams are penalized $1.50 for every dollar they spend in the first $5 million above the tax level; $1.75 for every dollar spent between $5 million and $10 million above; $2.50 for every dollar spent between $10 million to $15 million above; and $3.25 for every dollar spent $15 million and above.

    There is still haggling to be done here, though, as the league is still pushing for additional penalties for teams that repeatedly pay the tax.

    • Mid-level exception: The value of the mid-level, which allows teams to sign players even when they're over the salary cap, will be reduced from $5.8 million to $5 million. The NBPA has offered to shorten the length of the contracts from five years to four years, while the league is still pushing for a maximum of three years. There is also disagreement regarding luxury tax-paying teams and their ability to sign players using the mid-level.

    • Escrow: In the previous deal, the escrow tax (a percentage of players' salaries that is put into interest-bearing accounts by the league) was 8 percent. The NBPA has offered to raise it to 10 percent. The owners have been pushing for an unlimited escrow that would provide them with more cost certainty while also rendering the true value of a player's contract undefined on a yearly basis. While this issue is not settled, it's likely to land at the 10 percent mark.

    • "Stretch" exception: This exception would allow teams to waive a player and stretch his pay (and salary cap hit) over an extended period of time. The agreed-upon formula is as such: double the number of years left on the player's deal, plus one (so Player X who has two seasons remaining on his deal would be paid over five seasons). It's unclear how often this would be available to teams, but it's likely to be at least once per season.

    Unresolved

    • Basketball-related income split: Players received 57 percent of BRI in the previous deal and have offered to reduce their share to 52.5 percent, while the owners are seeking a 50-50 split. Each percentage point of BRI is worth about $40 million, so the NBPA has agreed to transfer $180 million annually from the players to the owners, or a minimum of $1.08 billion over the course of a six-year agreement.

    • Annual increases: Previously, Bird players were given 10.5 percent annual raises while non-Bird players were given 8 percent raises. The NBPA has proposed annual increases of 7.5 percent and 6 percent, while the NBA is proposing annual increases of 5.5 percent and 3.5 percent.

    • Early termination options: These options are negotiated into player contracts on an individual basis and allow them to opt out of their deals after an agreed-upon year(s). The NBA, however, has proposed eliminating ETOs, as well as player options that essentially serve the same purpose by giving the player a choice on whether to opt-in to a particular year of his deal or become a free agent.

    • Sign-and-trades: The sign-and-trade was previously an option for all teams, but the NBA is pushing to prohibit tax-paying teams from being able to do so in the new deal. What's more, sign-and-trade contracts will likely be for no more than four years.

    • CBA length: The NBA is proposing a 10-year agreement with an option to terminate after the seventh year. The NPBA has accepted the 10-year term, so long as the players have an option to terminate the agreement following Year No. 6 and No. 8.


    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1cGnbZwiL
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Sun Oct 30, 2011, 09:07 AM. Reason: Updated NYT article

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    • The last 5%

      What appears to be the hold up in completing a deal? Based on the NYT article in 1126, it is this:

      1) 2.5% of $4,000,000,000 plus in revenues (about $100M per season or 1/40th of the total loot).

      And so maybe, after surrendering the effort to get an extremely restrictive luxury-tax system, the NBA again tried to force the 50-50 ultimatum that caused talks to blow up two weeks ago. But by the union storming away this time, the owners could say they were never given the chance to consider a 51-49 or even a 51.5-48.5 compromise. And so this time they could show clean hands to the media and fans.

      "Billy said he would not go below 52 when he left,'' deputy commissioner Adam Silver said. "He didn't say, 'Do you want to split the difference?' He said, 'I will not go below 52.' . . . The negotiation ended when he said that.''
      Using the same methodology HoopsWorld used in calculating possible BRI reductions, the owners and players are fighting over:

      Salary cap at 52.5% would be $53,461,577 and luxury tax of $64,756,445.
      Salary cap at 50% would be $50,915,789 and luxury tax of $61,672,807.


      2) The NBA wants to further punish tax-paying teams by denying them use of the midlevel exception and sign-and-trade deals and the union opposes.


      3) The NBA wants additional penalties for “repeat offenders” in excess of the luxury tax and the union opposes.


      How is this resolved?

      For BRI, do a band of 50-52.5% with owners getting 50% of first x amount and players getting 52.5% of any amount over x or settle at 51.25%.

      Have the owners select one of 2) or 3) and forget the other.

      Deal done.

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      • At these cap penaly/lux. tax levels a team like the Heat (who are committed to about 60 mill. for the troika) would be shelling out $60 mill for say the $20 mill for the rest of the 12 team members which isnt a lot and gets the payroll to about 120 mill.

        Have I got that thinking right? Which pretty much socks it to the team making it a distinct possibility that they have to get rid of one of their biggies. I like that.

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        • The knives are out for Fisher?

          By Jason Whitlock - FOX Sports

          This is fact: The belief that NBA Players Association president Derek Fisher has been co-opted by commissioner David Stern — and promised the commish he could deliver the union at 50-50 — caused NBPA executive director Billy Hunter and at least one member of the union’s executive committee to confront Fisher on Friday morning and make him reassess his 50-50 push, a source familiar with the negotiations told FOXSports.com Friday afternoon.
          For entire piece

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          • Bendit wrote: View Post
            By Jason Whitlock - FOX Sports



            For entire piece
            Fisher is playing the role of Snowball in Animal Farm. Soon, he will be chased off the farm by rabid dogs....

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            • It appears 2013 may be the next big draft class:

              The sides still have not reached agreement on age limit, with the NBA pushing for a 20 year, two-years removed from high school rule.

              The NBA Players seem open to the idea assuming it is part of a system that allows high production rookie like Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin the ability to hit their first big contract earlier than the current four years in place.

              Under the expired Collective Bargaining Agreement, rookie contracts had two guaranteed years and two team option years. The Players Association would like to see long-term extension be eligible after the second year on over producing rookie deals.

              http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-sti...on-labor-deal/
              Raps fans screwed on the draft again.

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              • Current state of CBA negotiations

                The New York Times is suggesting that negotiations are 95% complete. BRI remains the biggest issue among the 5% that is not yet agreed upon.

                Nevertheless, here's a rundown of what has allegedly been settled so far:

                • Luxury-tax rate: Teams will be charged $1.50 per $1 spent beyond a threshold, replacing the previous dollar-for-dollar tax, according to people who have seen the plan.

                To further discourage spending, the tax will increase for every $5 million spent beyond the threshold: to $1.75 after $5 million, $2.25 after $10 million and $3 after $15 million.

                Under this system, the Los Angeles Lakers would have paid $42.5 million in taxes last season, compared with $20 million under the old formula. (The rates could still change based on other trade-offs.)

                • Contract lengths: Players with “Bird” rights will be eligible for five-year deals, while others will be limited to four. The previous CBA allowed for six-year (Bird) and five-year deals. The 1999 CBA allowed for seven-year (Bird) and six-year deals.

                • Raises: Annual raises will be reduced by several percentage points, possibly as low as 5 per cent for Bird players and 3.5 per cent for non-Bird players. The prior deal allowed raises as high as 10.5 per cent (Bird) and 8 per cent .

                • Mid-level exception: It will start at $5 million, a decrease of $800,000. The contract length and annual raises attached to the exception remain under discussion.

                • Amnesty clause: Each team will be permitted to waive one player, with pay — anytime during the life of the CBA — and have his salary be exempt from the cap and the luxury tax. Its use will be limited to players already under contract as of July 1, 2011.

                • Stretch exception: Teams will be permitted to stretch out payments to waived players, spreading out the cap hit, over several seasons. The payment schedule will be set by doubling the years left on the contract and adding one. (Thus a team waiving a player with two years left could pay him over five years.)

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                • Sorry, just realized this should've been posted under a different grouping...

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                  • Matt52 wrote: View Post
                    It appears 2013 may be the next big draft class:



                    Raps fans screwed on the draft again.
                    "Two years removed from high school" will still offer up a quality draft this summer seeing how many guys opted to bypass the draft this season due to the looming lockout. This will be fine. There won't be any freshman but I still believe the Raptors can draft a very good player. I like the idea of being able to extend long term after two seasons. It rewards young players for performing.

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                    • Apollo wrote: View Post
                      "Two years removed from high school" will still offer up a quality draft this summer seeing how many guys opted to bypass the draft this season due to the looming lockout. This will be fine. There won't be any freshman but I still believe the Raptors can draft a very good player. I like the idea of being able to extend long term after two seasons. It rewards young players for performing.
                      Agreed. Harrison Barnes will be available, as will Terrence Jones (and Perry Jones).
                      Fine by me if we walk away with any of those guys as our Starting SF.

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                      • Apollo wrote: View Post
                        "Two years removed from high school" will still offer up a quality draft this summer seeing how many guys opted to bypass the draft this season due to the looming lockout. This will be fine. There won't be any freshman but I still believe the Raptors can draft a very good player. I like the idea of being able to extend long term after two seasons. It rewards young players for performing.
                        Agreed. To me the bigger issue is how long a player is cost-controllable. I am ambivalent about the 2 year timeframe unless the price is a reduction in a player's controllable rookie deal, then I am vehemently opposed.

                        EDIT: Sorry, meant to say reduction in a player's controllable years on his rookie deal. This would be bad.

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                        • slaw wrote: View Post
                          Fisher is playing the role of Snowball in Animal Farm. Soon, he will be chased off the farm by rabid dogs....
                          rabid dogs = agents

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                          • If what we are hearing (changes) is true, how will current salaries of players with contracts be impacted if at all. To be more clear the cap, term & luxury penalties will change...will there be an immediate clawback of salaries from existing contracts?

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                            • Bendit wrote: View Post
                              If what we are hearing (changes) is true, how will current salaries of players with contracts be impacted if at all. To be more clear the cap, term & luxury penalties will change...will there be an immediate clawback of salaries from existing contracts?
                              No clawbacks. Which is another issue I have with the players twittering and at press conferences claiming all the money they are giving back. The NBA had been pushing for clawbacks but have dropped the issue along with a hard cap. Any player currently under contract will get 100% of that contract in whatever system is agreed upon. Teams are going to have to work under the new rules. I'm sure many teams will take advantage of the amnesty or the stretch options to get their payroll in compliance.

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                              • Matt52 wrote: View Post
                                No clawbacks. Which is another issue I have with the players twittering and at press conferences claiming all the money they are giving back. The NBA had been pushing for clawbacks but have dropped the issue along with a hard cap. Any player currently under contract will get 100% of that contract in whatever system is agreed upon. Teams are going to have to work under the new rules. I'm sure many teams will take advantage of the amnesty or the stretch options to get their payroll in compliance.
                                Without claw backs the Raptors are sitting pretty. I really understand why Colangelo has made it known he's not going to be a major player in free agency. When Val gets here they're probably going to be set in the paint. They need to get a wing in the 2012 draft and another PG wouldn't hurt. At that point they'll have one of the nicest young cores in the league.

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