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    There's the kid I love. Tony Allen is one of the toughest dudes in the NBA. He can be a bit of a knucklehead at times, but I'd love to see him in a Raps uniform. He plays tough D, has mad hops, won a championship in Boston..
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    I would like to get him as well. Maybe the prospect of his $2M guaranteed contract with Gay's contract, Randolph's extension, and possible big pay day for Gasol makes him expendable in the new CBA environment given they have Young and Allen as well.
    I would think though that only $2M would make him more of a keeper in Memphis to balance the $. I would like him but not so sure his contract makes him an out. He might want out after the BS negotiations in the beginning, but not his choice right now.

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    I don't think Derrick Williams is the solution on the wing. If we draft him and play him as a starting small forward he is going to suck his first year, if we draft him as a project and let him learn the new position then down the road he could be nice.

    James Johnson is finding a role and should come back next season more focused and a little more crisp. Remember he did not play all year till he got to Toronto, he was just starting to get into real game shape.

    Xavier Henry I am not sold on, although he has a great frame I don't see him having the length to guard the 3 spot. The nice thing is he may have learned a thing or two from Tony Allen.

    Here are a few more names to think about

    Arron Afflalo SG unrestricted Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF restricted
    Thaddeus Young Combo Forward restricted
    Mickael Pietrus G/F Unrestricted with a player option
    I am pretty sure Aflallo is restricted. Pietrus is saying he likes it in Phoenix and will exercise his option.
    I like Thaddeus Young and would chase him as well. Philly really wants to keep him though.
    Another restricted FA I would look at is Wilson Chandler as well.

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    Josh Smith. There have been rumblings of the Hawks shuffling the deck in the off-season. With him an Ed Davis at the forwards spots suddenly the defense looks far more threatening.
    I would be up for Josh Smith. With how they smacked Orlando though, I think the rumblings (perhaps started here on RR!) will subside a little if they bump the Magic.

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    People forget JJ didn't have any time in training camp with the team. With a better grasp of the plays and schemes he's going to be that much better.
    Quite possible.

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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    I should have used the word struggle. He is not a wing player right now, he will need to adjust to a new position that has loads of talent in the East right now. Draftexpress (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...Williams-5811/), a solid source, has him listed as a power forward with potential positions as only power forward, other sites have him as a SF or combo. Now I do see some ability for him to play on the perimeter but it will take some time to make that switch full time. That is what I meant, not suck so much as struggle with growing pains.
    doesnt every rookie struggle with growing pains?

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    grab affron affalo, maybe micheal redd?

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    Quote Raptors_ wrote: View Post
    grab affron affalo, maybe micheal redd?
    Redd's not really a wing. He can't play the 3. He's strictly a 2-guard. I wouldn't take the guy on. He's good for a major injury every year.
    Last edited by MangoKid; Tue Apr 19th, 2011 at 04:02 PM.

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    Redd's not really a wing. He can't play the 3. He's strictly a 2-guard. I wouldn't take the guy on. He's good a major injury every year.
    Not to mention he would do nothing to improve our defense.

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    Redd's not really a wing. He can't play the 3. He's strictly a 2-guard. I wouldn't take the guy on. He's good for a major injury every year.
    Affalo would be a good pick up though.

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    Quote Raptors_ wrote: View Post
    Affalo would be a good pick up though.
    Agree

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    If we could somehow get Jeff Green that would be sweet. As of right now, I'm fine with having JJ and Kleiza (maybe) as our main sf's if it means more attention is put into finding a tough center.

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    I've been high on green for a while but his time in Boston has really soured him on me.

    I'm in total agreement on affalo, though. Hard nosed defender who can shoot coming off the bench? Yes please.
    Last edited by ceez; Wed Apr 20th, 2011 at 09:39 AM.
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    I've been high on green for a while but his time in Boston has really soured him on me.

    I'm in total agreement on affalo, though. Hard nosed defender who can shoot coming off the bench? Yes please.
    I see Derrick Williams being much like Green. Green can play the 3 but has quite a bit of 4 in him.

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    No need for more young wings of any kind ... we need vets to go along with our VERY young core ... DeMar and James Johnson are great pieces to move ahead with at the 2-3 ... Bargnani or Ed will be filling the void at the other forward ... We don't need youth anywhere I don't think - except whatever we grab in the draft (Kyrie, Williams or bust).
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    Another player that we might be able to make a run at vis a trade is Nicolas Batum. With the arrival of Gerald Wallace, the fact that Roy and Wes Mathews are locked in for a few more years and players like Luke Babbitt and and Rudy Fernandez on on the team, Batum may be gettable.

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    Daequan Cook should be given a look and I think he'll be fairly cheap.

    A guy like Francisco Garcia, while not young, might be a decent pick up (trade needed).

    If Barbosa opts out, go get Afflalo and try to sell him on 6th man of the year.

    JR Smith might be worth the gamble if not too expensive - every team needs 1 head case, lol, it keeps things interesting.

    Gallinari would be a great pick up as well (trade).

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    A player like Shane Battier, Grant Hill, etc ... come in and show the younglings how to play ball the right way ... Deeefense!
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Daequan Cook should be given a look and I think he'll be fairly cheap.

    A guy like Francisco Garcia, while not young, might be a decent pick up (trade needed).

    If Barbosa opts out, go get Afflalo and try to sell him on 6th man of the year.

    JR Smith might be worth the gamble if not too expensive - every team needs 1 head case, lol, it keeps things interesting.

    Gallinari would be a great pick up as well (trade).
    I know you like Cook, and I don't know his game well, but if as advertised sure.

    Garcia would be helping SAC, I would want Thompson and/or their pick as well.
    Barbosa won't opt out for sure. He has nagging injuries that will hurt his $ chances and he will not get those dollars elsewhere. He would also quite possibly feel he could get traded as a chip and have backroom talks with BC...if of course HE is still around.

    JR Smith is a potential backup, but like you said, would need to be cheap. He toned down his antics this year, but how much is that in deference to Karl?

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    I see Derrick Williams being much like Green. Green can play the 3 but has quite a bit of 4 in him.
    Interesting point. Didn't think that way.

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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    A player like Shane Battier, Grant Hill, etc ... come in and show the younglings how to play ball the right way ... Deeefense!
    They already have a far better wing than either one of those guys showing the youngsters how to play. Alex English, one of the most prolific scorers in NBA history.

    I personally don't want to see any rentals here next year.

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    Did someone actually suggest signing Michael Redd to shore up our defensive problems on the wing? Yikes.

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    Redd would be good for solving the lack of a long range scorer. He's come out and proclaimed he will get back to where he was. Sounds like he's motivated. If he can be had for a reasonable price I think it would be a good idea. He was always a solid leader on the Bucks before he got seriously injured. He might strongly consider Toronto for his official comeback because they're not loaded at the wing.

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