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Thread: From RR Homepage: Cap Flexibility Must Be Why "98% of Raptors Fans LOVE Colangelo"

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    Could Bargnani be traded before July 1? Absolutely. Anyone can get dealt at any given time. However, in my opinion, I believe that it's more unlikely because he's still on a BYC and he has a reasonable contract. We'd be getting 60 cents to the dollar in terms of his value.

    Could Barbosa turn down 8 million? Sure. Richard Jefferson left over 14 million on the table last season to sign something long term, so it's very possible he goes the same route.
    I am not disagreeing with you. Everything is possible in this league and in the world but given the state of the league this year and with the new CBA and new cost cuttings and ... both of the aboves are much less likely to happen. That is all I am saying so this makes the article on the front page a more realistic scenario of what is going on in the Raptor land than the picture Matt paints here.

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    I am not disagreeing with you. Everything is possible in this league and in the world but given the state of the league this year and with the new CBA and new cost cuttings and ... both of the aboves are much less likely to happen. That is all I am saying so this makes the article on the front page a more realistic scenario of what is going on in the Raptor land than the picture Matt paints here.
    To recap my points which you have refused to discuss directly:

    1) The salary cap number for the Raps next year is $45M not $47M already questioning the findings of the article on homepage - Arse even made comment for people to correct him if anything was incorrect:
    Did a screw up somewhere in the last two paragraphs? I’m sure you’ll tell me if I did.

    Read more: http://raptorsrepublic.com/2011/04/2...#ixzz1KD8Z9TzL
    2) There is a possibility Barbosa could opt out

    3) There is a possibility Bargnani could be traded and if so his BYC would only allow 50% of his 2010-2011 salary to come back

    4) 2 and 3 create a scenario where $21.5M could be available

    5) As already noted, both 2 and 3 are hypothetical - but possible. Likely? Maybe. Maybe not. But there are many more outcomes than what Arse has proposed. Arse's proposal assumes no changes between now and June 30th except the draft pick - I do not think this to be likely but that is just my opinion.

    6) 5% probabilities were numbers made up by you - they have no basis or credibility. CLE having a 25% chance to win the lottery is a fact based probability. Once again presenting opinion as fact discredits your post.

    7) The Raptors having a better financial situation than 3/4's of the league is also a fact based statement, arguably more if you were to break down each roster - $22M to Lewis in WSH pops to mind.

    8) The picture Matt painted was the flip side of the coin. It is no secret Arse is not a fan of bringing back Colangelo - and that is fine. The difference between Arse's point of view and your own is Arse usually backs up his opinions with a foundation of reason and logic. There are 3 sides to every story: Arse's, mine, and the truth - the truth is usually, as in this case, somewhere in the middle.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    To recap my points which you have refused to discuss directly:
    LOOOL, refuse to discuss !! What is to discuss !! your fairy tales and highly unlikely scenarios !! To get a dose of REALITY, Read the article on the front page by REAL knowledgeable Raptor fan.

    That should answer all your questions. If we decide to discuss your scenarios then we might as well discuss the trade for Lebron with that 21.5 million because to me, they all have the same chance of occurring.

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    LOOOL, refuse to discuss !! What is to discuss !! your fairy tales and highly unlikely scenarios !! To get a dose of REALITY, Read the article on the front page by REAL knowledgeable Raptor fan.

    That should answer all your questions. If we decide to discuss your scenarios then we might as well discuss the trade for Lebron with that 21.5 million because to me, they all have the same chance of occurring.
    Issues refused to discuss:

    1) Cap number wrong

    2) Would you rather have 1 year at $7.6M guaranteed or look at multi years and possibily upwards of $15M or more of guaranteed money as a 29 year old at the start of next year, 8 year pro who relies on speed as a major part of his game?

    3) Other players have left money on the table for more guaranteed money.

    4) Jose or Bargnani could be traded - no one on a 22 win team, as you routinely bring up, should be safe.

    5) Imagined statistics passed as fact.

    6) The fact the Raps have less money committed to players than 75% of the other teams in the league.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Issues refused to discuss:

    1) Cap number wrong

    2) Would you rather have 1 year at $7.6M guaranteed or look at multi years and possibily upwards of $15M or more of guaranteed money as a 29 year old at the start of next year, 8 year pro who relies on speed as a major part of his game?

    3) Other players have left money on the table for more guaranteed money.

    4) Jose or Bargnani could be traded - no one on a 22 win team, as you routinely bring up, should be safe.

    5) Imagined statistics passed as fact.

    6) The fact the Raps have less money committed to players than 75% of the other teams in the league.
    When you came back to reality and stop dreaming about unicorns, I will have a logical discussion with you but till then, read the below, learn a few things and maybe and just maybe start to think about reality and write something with little substance:

    http://raptorsrepublic.com/2011/04/2...ove-colangelo/

    Best of Luck Pal

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