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    A poster today speculated on the Raps getting Steph from GS, because management there has declared him redundant, in light of Monta Ellis. Personally, I would LOVE to get Curry for our draft pick, even if it's the number one overall. Great shooter, including the three and free throws, steal and a half a game, almost as many boards as Il Mago (!), and exciting as all hell. Maybe Irving becomes a great one, maybe he doesn't. But for my money, it's a bird in the hand thing. Thoughts?

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    I'd take Irving over curry (better defender, game manager) but otherwise, yeah id be all over that. Curry spent a lot of time here already, when his dad was here. Would be really cool for multiple reasons.

    If I'm GS I keep Curry over Ellis but whatever.
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    this sounds like trade speculation..

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    If I had to give up Irving, no. I think Irving is going to be a star in this league. Now, if Irving was already off the board and we had the #2 pick where we'd likely draft D. Williams, then I'd be tempted.

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    Quote jd4 wrote: View Post
    If I had to give up Irving, no. I think Irving is going to be a star in this league. Now, if Irving was already off the board and we had the #2 pick where we'd likely draft D. Williams, then I'd be tempted.
    Agreed about Irving potentially being a star. But that raises the question: is Curry not already a star, or at least a star in the making? Personally, I think he is. He is already an adequate defender (as evidenced by the 1.5 steals a game), and a supremely gifted and electrifying offensive player. He would put butts in the seats (and don't think that's not a consideration).

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    So again, trade Bargnani to SAC for their pick plus filler, and trade whatever pick is not top 2 (hoping we get one of them) to GS for SC.

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    Quote Maleko wrote: View Post
    So again, trade Bargnani to SAC for their pick plus filler, and trade whatever pick is not top 2 (hoping we get one of them) to GS for SC.
    My guess is it would take a top two pick to get GS to part with Curry, although I have zero problem making the Bargs trade you suggest.

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    Quote Maleko wrote: View Post
    So again, trade Bargnani to SAC for their pick plus filler, and trade whatever pick is not top 2 (hoping we get one of them) to GS for SC.
    I've read the Bargs to Sacramento proposals from several posters already. I'd love for him to pair up with Cousins and Evans and see if he gets to chuck 18 shots a game. Cousins will eat him.
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    I've read the Bargs to Sacramento proposals from several posters already. I'd love for him to pair up with Cousins and Evans and see if he gets to chuck 18 shots a game. Cousins will eat him.
    Now that got me laughing for a while. No chance he gets to take 18 shots a game anymore in SAC if he gets there (especially with TEvans), but still a 10-14 on various nights. SAC does need another shooter, Cousins should balance Bargnani somewhat, and they have both publicly stated they are open to trading the pick, and shopped Casspi, and Thompson. And they have cap space.

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    My guess is it would take a top two pick to get GS to part with Curry, although I have zero problem making the Bargs trade you suggest.
    So let's say we do the Bargs for SAC's pick (and filler) and the wild world of lottery happens and we get the 1st and 2nd picks. In this dreamworld, do you prefer taking Irving and DWilliams, or would you trade for Steph Curry with Irving's pick?

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    Do you think they would do Irving for Curry and their first rounder?
    Since everyone thinks Irving will be better do you think this would make it more fair?

    And if somehow we got first and second, as suggested above, we would have Curry, DWilliams, and another late first pick?

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    Irving>Curry
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    Quote Maleko wrote: View Post
    So let's say we do the Bargs for SAC's pick (and filler) and the wild world of lottery happens and we get the 1st and 2nd picks. In this dreamworld, do you prefer taking Irving and DWilliams, or would you trade for Steph Curry with Irving's pick?
    Irving and DWilliams.

    I love Steph but I'd take Irving over him cause he's younger.

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    Irving and DWilliams.

    I love Steph but I'd take Irving over him cause he's younger.
    Dude, how young do you want your players to be? Toronto has the youngest team in the NBA (or damn close to it). So what if Curry is a couple of years older than Irving? He's only, what, 22 or something?

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    Quote bballnut27 wrote: View Post
    Do you think they would do Irving for Curry and their first rounder?
    Since everyone thinks Irving will be better do you think this would make it more fair?

    And if somehow we got first and second, as suggested above, we would have Curry, DWilliams, and another late first pick?
    Holy crap, that would be amazing. And with that late first rounder, you could take one of Kemba, Tristan Thompson, Brandon Knight, Jimmer...Personally, though, I'd do Curry even up for the first pick. I know I'm probably in the minority on that one, but Curry is a proven commodity. He's a tough kid, not afraid to take the big shot, not afraid to take it to the hoop, great teammate, amazing foul shooter and 3-pt shooter, etc., etc. Whereas Irving missed most of the season. By all accounts, he'll be a very good player, but I'd go with the proven commodity. Could Irving end up eclipsing Curry? Yes. But not by much. I'd take the safe(r) bet in Curry. But that's just me.

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    Quote Maleko wrote: View Post
    So let's say we do the Bargs for SAC's pick (and filler) and the wild world of lottery happens and we get the 1st and 2nd picks. In this dreamworld, do you prefer taking Irving and DWilliams, or would you trade for Steph Curry with Irving's pick?
    I'd trade for Curry, for reasons that I outlined to bballnut27.

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    Quote bballnut27 wrote: View Post
    Do you think they would do Irving for Curry and their first rounder?
    Since everyone thinks Irving will be better do you think this would make it more fair?

    And if somehow we got first and second, as suggested above, we would have Curry, DWilliams, and another late first pick?
    If that happened and Valenciunas slipped, or even Biyombo, then a good time to have another big developing.

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    I'd trade the #1 for Curry straight up any day of the week....Curry has proven he can play in the NBA...and as much I like Irvings game he is still unproven and has only played like 11 NCAA games....that being said GS would NEVER let Curry go for that little...i think we are undervaluing the trade value of Steph here.....the kid is an unique player who hasn't even touched his potential not to mention he may have the longest range in the league along with the best stroke in the league (from beyond the arc anyways)
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    Curry has proven to be a very good player, but I don't know if he'll ever be a great player. Irving could. If you want to go the safe route, then you trade the pick for Curry, but no one has ever won a Championship going the safe route.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Curry has proven to be a very good player, but I don't know if he'll ever be a great player. Irving could. If you want to go the safe route, then you trade the pick for Curry, but no one has ever won a Championship going the safe route.
    Curry averaged 18.6 ppg/5.9apg/3.9rpg with 48% from the field/ 44% from 3/ and 93% from the line (to lead the league) and and he is ONLY 23! Man has already put up a triple-double in the league and is always a threat to go off for one. What more does this guy have to do get some respect in this forum?

    Like you said Tim he is already a very good player but he still has a lot to learn, do you think he as already reached his ceiling as a 23 year old? Because I certainly don't. Curry didn't start playing point until his last year at Davidson and in three short years he has become exceptional distributor in the best league in the world. He is way more poised with the ball then some other young PGs as well (Russel Westbrook for one) and knows where to be on the basketball court and for his case that is usually along the perimeter. Also he was pegged as a tweener coming into the league but at 6'3" he has great size for the point, now that he's proven he could play it. Asking a player to completely change the way he plays is a huge deal and great basketball players are the ones who can change they're stripes when need be. I'd also like to point out he was playing, on average, three less minutes per game this season and put up better numbers than his rookie season (which would be hard to do for anybody in the league) and he has good basketball pedigree and IQ as he has been around the game all his life. Curry is definitely safer then Irving but Curry has more potential than Irving as well, which is saying a lot because Irving does has a lot of potential. I've seen most of Irving's Duke games and he has a great ball IQ and wicked handle but for Curry to show that he can learn those things after playing SG for his whole basketball career is testament to the amount of skill Curry has.
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