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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    You think the T-Wolves would give up BOTH Flynn and their pick for Calderon? Since when did Calderin become so valuable?
    I think you're right. A more likely trade might be Flynn+Pekovic or Flynn+Tolliver for Jose. I think the Wolves are under the cap, so matching salaries wouldn't be necessary, but I doubt Minnesota would want to take on extra cash.

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    No you're right the twolves are known for making shrewd moves
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    You think the T-Wolves would give up BOTH Flynn and their pick for Calderon? Since when did Calderin become so valuable?
    I don't think it would work to just do it straight up...but a package deal, potentially bringing in a third team even, could satisfy the teams needs. The article states the the T-Wolves would most likely try to move both Flynn and the pick if Rubio were to sign (I have also read elsewhere that Minnesota intends to make signing Rubio to a contract the top priority before the end of May.

    We can also see that the Wolves are in need of big-man help and a veteran PG to mentor Rubio. Calderon would meet the second requirement better then anyone else. Anyone of more talent, and Minnesota would be able to acquire them to simply be a mentor, other then perhaps a player like Andre Miller (who I don't think Portland would move, and he would not be happy in that role). But Calderon can also help off of the court as well. Who could help a young Spanish PG adjust to live in the NBA better then a veteran Spanish PG. But, we have beat this idea into the ground over the last several months so I don't really need to elaborate very much.

    As for the big-man help...that would need to be a third team unless Minnesota saw Bargnani that way.

    Matt52 has some excellent (and plausible, I might add) trade suggestions here: http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...y-Trades/page2

    Although Flynn is young and has a lot of potential, based on his play so far on the court he does not carry huge trade value. They tried to trade him at the deadline (from what I read) and did not find much being offered.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    You think the T-Wolves would give up BOTH Flynn and their pick for Calderon? Since when did Calderin become so valuable?
    at hoopsworld they said they want a experienced pg back for their top pick, i don't know about you but calderon is perfect especially since he's spanish.

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    A straight Jose for 1st and Flynn would be incredible - but unlikely is an understatement.

    With that said, MIN's needs are not youth. If Barbosa opted in, other teams were involved, or Toronto made a couple of separeate trades, I think TOR could get some assets together that would interest MIN and allow TOR to get Flynn and the pick.

    BTW, if Flynn came, he or Bayless would have to go in my opinion. I think both could fetch a future lottery protected first round pick on their own.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    BTW, if Flynn came, he or Bayless would have to go in my opinion. I think both could fetch a future lottery protected first round pick on their own.
    I don't think either would have to go. I think having both of them coming into training camp guns blazing and really battling it out for the that starting spot would be great. We would get better at defense at the point guard position. Would have two guys going out every night with something to prove.
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    yeah remember kahn is an idiot. anything is possible!!!

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    Quote Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    I don't think either would have to go. I think having both of them coming into training camp guns blazing and really battling it out for the that starting spot would be great. We would get better at defense at the point guard position. Would have two guys going out every night with something to prove.
    I should have clarified, I am working under the assumption that TOR also has draft rights to Walker or Irving. I've gone in to overdrive on trade scenarios.... that will most likely never happen, lol.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Calderon for Flynn and their first.

    Draft Kanter and Leonard. Suddenly the lineup looks like this:

    Flynn/Bayless
    Derozen/Barbosa
    Leonard/JJ/Klezia
    Ed/Amir
    Kanter/Alabi

    Trade Bargs for some future picks or whatever.
    having kanter and alabi as our centres.

    i'd much rather keep bargnani and gain some progressd in this rebuild.
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    God are we this desperate

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    why do w need flynn when we have bayless?
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    Quote knickz wrote: View Post
    why do w need flynn when we have bayless?
    Every team couple use high a character guy. Especially one with the type of skill and upside Jonny Flynn has. Were in rebuilt mode and the goal is to get as much young talent as we can than develop them.
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    having kanter and alabi as our centres.

    i'd much rather keep bargnani and gain some progressd in this rebuild.
    Well I'd assume the 3 bigs (Ed, Kanter, Amir) would be the rotation. Alabi is a bench dude, just listing the players by position.
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    Quote Thomas A. wrote: View Post
    I think you're right. A more likely trade might be Flynn+Pekovic or Flynn+Tolliver for Jose. I think the Wolves are under the cap, so matching salaries wouldn't be necessary, but I doubt Minnesota would want to take on extra cash.
    This is what I want. It is a reasonable scenario and it brings us back a solid back up center who could either play behind or beside Bargs if he's still here or split time with Kanter if we draft that way. I think their pick might be a little too much to ask for, but if BC could get it that would be fantastic.
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    Quote raptorsking wrote: View Post
    at hoopsworld they said they want a experienced pg back for their top pick, i don't know about you but calderon is perfect especially since he's spanish.
    I don't deny that Minnesota might want Calderon, but not even Kahn is stupid enough to give up Flynn AND a #1 pick for a backup PG. Does that seem reasonable at all to you?
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    You throw Bargnani in and Minnesota might start thinking about trading their pick. Maybe taking back Webster and one of their centers.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I don't think it would be a bad trade, but another mediocre PG? Are the Raptors turning into the T-Wolves? Is another mediocre PG really going to do anything?
    yes you are right Flynn is not s stellar PG but:
    1) more cap flexibility
    2) will gel better with young group
    3) better defender on the ball
    4) Give Bayless a chance to be #1 for a season see if he becomes Chancey....
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    I really like Flynn, if you look at is nbadraft.net profile, they compare him to damon stoudemaire, but i think Flynn and Bayless sharing time would limint their growth, so if we do get Flynn(and maybe their pick), maybe we could trade Bayless, because his trade value maybe as high as every

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    What about possibly Calderon going for Flynn and A. Randolph?

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    Quote GoHuskies wrote: View Post
    What about possibly Calderon going for Flynn and A. Randolph?
    No are Front line is already to skinny and packed with power forward. We need some meat in there Pekovic would be a good pick up for the raptors. Brings size and toughness.
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