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    Default Bell Or Rogers Going To Pay $2.25B For MLSE?

    A Canadian-based sports banker familiar with the discussions on the sale of Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment by the Ontario Teachers Pension Fund says it is highly likely that either Bell Canada Enterprises or Rogers Communications will eventually pay $2.25 billion for MLS&E. This person spoke on the condition of because of anonymity because they are not authorized to disclose information on the talks.
    Source: Forbes

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    That $2.25B has to be for MLSE in it's entirity.
    OTPP was only asking $1.7 for their portion.

    If that is the case, then that means that Tannenbaum is open to selling his portion.
    Or that is the assumption being made here it seems.

    ADD Although, that $1.6-1.7 was for 66%. They have since upped their share to 80%. So perhaps not actually.

    ADD I still find it amazing how people can say Toronto is a 'Small Market' and yet we are #10 Most Valuable Franchise in the League, behind only Power Houses like New York, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Boston, Pheonix, Miami, San Antonio and Houston. That is some GOOD company.
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    Just get 'er done. Except with that size of purchase, nothing happens quickly. Hopefully this has been in the works for weeks/months and most of the paperwork crap is put through.

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    This has been one of the most interesting days a Raps fan in a while. Rubio rumours to MIN and OTPP possibly selling..... serenity.

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    I hopes its bell

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    I hopes its bell
    i dno't know everything bell makes is usually expensive and shit box.


    i doubt they have any passion for sports. but,they do own ctv which subdivision is tsn.

    i'd rather have rogers who already has experience in the field of sports team ownership.

    but, what i pray for is for an individual owner to jump in and pull the rug out from underneath bell and rogers.
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    i dno't know everything bell makes is usually expensive and shit box.
    I pay $60 a month for Internet and Satellite from Bell and I've never once had a issue with it.
    I get NBATV, TSN2, SN1, NFL Network, National Geographic, Discovery, ALL HD, plus Internet for $60-ish a month.

    I remember hearing that Bell was garbage, but I think it's all Rogers propoganda. I've had a wonderful experience with Bell. haha
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I pay $60 a month for Internet and Satellite from Bell and I've never once had a issue with it.
    I get NBATV, TSN2, SN1, NFL Network, National Geographic, Discovery, ALL HD, plus Internet for $60-ish a month.

    I remember hearing that Bell was garbage, but I think it's all Rogers propoganda. I've had a wonderful experience with Bell. haha
    I had sh!tty experiences with both. Moved on to Shaw.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    i dno't know everything bell makes is usually expensive and shit box.
    I've had a Bell cell phone now for a decade. I disagree...

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    i doubt they have any passion for sports. but,they do own ctv which subdivision is tsn.
    Rogers does?

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    i'd rather have rogers who already has experience in the field of sports team ownership.
    It doesn't matter. The Teachers have experience and how's that working out? Nobody at Bell is going to be making trades, signing FA or drafting players. That will be the GM's job. It doesn't matter who owns it as long as they're willing to step aside and open their wallet.

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    but, what i pray for is for an individual owner to jump in and pull the rug out from underneath bell and rogers.
    Me too, if it's the right owner but there doesn't seem to be a realistic taker. I can't think of a single franchise who has had success while owned by a corporation.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Me too, if it's the right owner but there doesn't seem to be a realistic taker. I can't think of a single franchise who has had success while owned by a corporation.
    I've often pondered this as well. And was feeling a little 'journalistic', if you will. haha

    If you go here, you can see that the Raptors situation is fairly unique in the History of the NBA.

    Besides Comcast, who owns and Operates both the Flyers and the 76ers, (the Atlanta Spirit seem to be more of a partnership than a corporation) there is ZERO history of Corporations owning Teams in the NBA. Period.

    With Bell/Rogers moving in to possibly make the Purchase, we could be looking at something very similar to what Philidalphia is dealing with now. They won the Championship in the 1982-83 season, but that was under the owndership of Ed Snider's "Spectator", which seems to be a company who's sole purpose was Owning and Operating the Flyers/76ers. Not the same thing. He sold 'Spectator' to Comcast in '96, and haven't had much success since.

    So I agree, that it seems the best way to success is through a Majority, Individual owner, but at the same time, alot of teams have had very little success under that Ownership system as well (Donald Sterling anyone?).
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    We know Jim Balsillie has the personal wealth to play with the big boys and that he would probably love to own the Leafs. What about it Jim? Sell your stake in RIM and focus on making MLSE winning franchises.

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    Quote j bean wrote: View Post
    We know Jim Balsillie has the personal wealth to play with the big boys and that he would probably love to own the Leafs. What about it Jim? Sell your stake in RIM and focus on making MLSE winning franchises.
    This is interesting. So JUST be an owner ..?.. Most owners have their other money making schemes, for if the team isn't profitable; but he wouldn't be losing money at MLSE either. Both teams are Top 10 Revenues every year. I wonder if he's considering it.

    I don't think the NHL would let him buy the Leafs anyway. They really don't like him.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    This is interesting. So JUST be an owner ..?.. Most owners have their other money making schemes, for if the team isn't profitable; but he wouldn't be losing money at MLSE either. Both teams are Top 10 Revenues every year. I wonder if he's considering it.

    I don't think the NHL would let him buy the Leafs anyway. They really don't like him.
    Jim does not have the money that Rogers or Bell has, so lets not even pretend that he can afford to buy it. Jim wants an NHL team, and wants to bring a defunct one because he can get it for a cheap price or something within his range. He does NOT have the money to buy MLSE.

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    Quote jeevie wrote: View Post
    Jim does not have the money that Rogers or Bell has, so lets not even pretend that he can afford to buy it. Jim wants an NHL team, and wants to bring a defunct one because he can get it for a cheap price or something within his range. He does NOT have the money to buy MLSE.
    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/...llie_PVUQ.html
    This lists his net worth at 2.3 billion.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I pay $60 a month for Internet and Satellite from Bell and I've never once had a issue with it.
    I get NBATV, TSN2, SN1, NFL Network, National Geographic, Discovery, ALL HD, plus Internet for $60-ish a month.

    I remember hearing that Bell was garbage, but I think it's all Rogers propoganda. I've had a wonderful experience with Bell. haha
    Bell takes all of the uncompressed 1080i 19 megabit HD content and compresses it into 720p at 8 mbps. Rogers passes the same content through uncompressed. Obviously things will get better when Bell switches over to MPEG4, but it's still a huge loss in quality compared to competitors.

    Source: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=76129
    Last edited by Brandon; Tue May 17th, 2011 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Brandon wrote: View Post
    Bell takes all of the uncompressed 1080i 19 megabit HD content and compresses it into 720p at 8 mbps. Rogers passes the same content through uncompressed. Obviously things will get better when Bell switches over to MPEG4, but it's still a huge loss in quality compared to competitors.

    Source: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=76129
    Fascinating. Had no idea... Though in that Article it does state that 720 is "smoother" and "better" for Sports...
    I guess thats some consolation... haha
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