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    Default Kanter DOESN'T Reject Raptors

    It's a good thing no one around here jumped to any conclusions about this...

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    That link I posted comes from this article from SI...
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...l?eref=writers

    A couple of interesting quotes:

    "He went 21-plus minutes on the treadmill test, and only five guys -- plus Enes -- [did that] and four of them were guards," Ergul told SI.com. "[NBA officials] said that was the first time in the draft in modern history that had happened, that no 6-11-plus guys ever finished 21-minutes-plus on the treadmill test ... People don't realize how prepared this kid is, how dedicated he is."
    From his agent:
    "Utah is coming here to Chicago, and we're going to go to Minnesota in the second half of June," Ergul said. "Toronto is coming here. Cleveland (Nos. 1 and 4 picks), we're trying to discussing logistics of dates and stuff."
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    I'm glad that's put to rest. Maybe we'll be lucky enough to get him at 5. Interesting couple of weeks ahead for Colangelo.
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    Ex raptor Hedo talking about maybe new raptor Enes Kanter
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    rather have knight,valanciunas or biyombo so might as well let him slip to washington if he isn't drafted top 3

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    After getting news that he only delayed his meeting with Utah, I had a feeling he was doing the same with Toronto.

    Well done Tim. Now for those of us who didn't completely turn on this guy, here's hoping Valanciunas gets picked before Kanter.
    Aldridge seems to think its a possibility.

    Although, ESPN should ease off their Fox News style reporting; where everything is either the Greatest thing since the Last Greatest things, or it's the END OF THE WORLD. It's getting old.
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    Kanter's people are on damage control, they know they fucked up. W/e who cares about Kanter anyways hes going 4th overall.

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    all you guys who want jonas over kanter are insane
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    all you guys who want jonas over kanter are insane
    Shhhhh! Don't tell Cleveland.

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    Quote HuskyRaptor wrote: View Post
    rather have knight,valanciunas or biyombo so might as well let him slip to washington if he isn't drafted top 3
    Why would you rather have Biyombo or Valanciunas? I'm just curious.
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    Any bad publicity is good for us... all the guy has gotten so far is positive hype, it has done nothing but make him climb.


    Personally I hope his agent pisses off more clubs. The more they act like Kanter is a sure thing the bigger a chance he will slide.
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    Quote HuskyRaptor wrote: View Post
    rather have knight,valanciunas or biyombo so might as well let him slip to washington if he isn't drafted top 3
    Yes. Who the hell wants a 6'11, 260 lb center with excellent agility, the most polished low post skills of just about any big man in the lottery and the strength and toughness to do damage down there? I'd rather draft a PG with few actual PG skills, a raw, offensively challenged big man who fouls every 5 minutes he's on the floor or an undersized center no one heard of 3 months ago.
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    Kanter is a straight up beast, but he rather be a backup to McGee than take Bargnani or maybe even Hollins job.
    Thats how I see it.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Yes. Who the hell wants a 6'11, 260 lb center with excellent agility, the most polished low post skills of just about any big man in the lottery and the strength and toughness to do damage down there? I'd rather draft a PG with few actual PG skills, a raw, offensively challenged big man who fouls every 5 minutes he's on the floor or an undersized center no one heard of 3 months ago.
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    I already feel really sorry for the guys that are going to face him in summer league. (assuming there is one)


    It is my opinion he will dominate the crap out of summer leagues, rookie camps and even combines. What I am curious about is how he will fare against the big boys. That is the question that has not been fully answered for me. You can say the same thing about the other prospects, but I have this feeling that Kanter's game relies more on overpowering his opponent than out finessing him.

    On the level he is at, size and heart are devastating. On the NBA level, you need to add an extra heaping dose of talent. Kanter seems to have both, but his athletic ability is far from being in a league of his own. The other prospects can very well get bigger, and find heart, develop a better understanding of the game.

    This is not to say Kanter will not do his share of improving, he will, I just wonder what he has left to improve on and if the % improvement is going to be as large as a lot of these kids that never saw the pro game.


    Has Kanter's tool set been optimized at this level, the kid utilizing a lot of his capacity to the fullest much earlier than most? Or is there more room to make Kanter better than he is? Is this a guy that has already tapped out his levels, to show the dominance that he is showing?
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    Nikola Vucevic is a straight up beast, he was just as good as Kanter if not better at the Combine, but you don't hear anyone praising him like hes a god or something. Hes the kinda player that will slip to the Spurs or Lakers and GMs will be shitting bricks when their teams have to face this dude.
    I'm not against Kanter, but I hate his submissiveness towards his agent. Hes gonna be a tool for years to come.

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    I think that is a good point. You can easily see by the body types of a Nikola Vucevic and JV that these guys will gain weight and size, when they do, their skills become that much deadlier.

    Will Kanter gain more size? Is he tapped, does his dominance come from a player that has already pushed himself as far as he can go?


    (Take Battier, great player, a coach may think looking at Battier that he can make him better, he probably misses the fact that the kid was already using every trick in the book to achieve the success that he did, and to make him better, you can only rely on improving his strength and speed. Which at this level, is a very minuscule improvement year to year and far from a bonanza.)
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    some real cerebral posting going on in here
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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    Kanter is a straight up beast, but he rather be a backup to McGee than take Bargnani or maybe even Hollins job.
    Thats how I see it.
    I don't think he'd backup either McGee or Bargnani. I think he'd take both their jobs. McGee is a freakishly athletic center with a very low basketball IQ and low maturity level. Bargnani, well, we know about Bargnani.
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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    Nikola Vucevic is a straight up beast, he was just as good as Kanter if not better at the Combine, but you don't hear anyone praising him like hes a god or something. Hes the kinda player that will slip to the Spurs or Lakers and GMs will be shitting bricks when their teams have to face this dude.
    I'm not against Kanter, but I hate his submissiveness towards his agent. Hes gonna be a tool for years to come.
    Wow. You're judging the guy with such little information. You just seem determined not to like him, for some reason.

    As for Nikola Vucevic, he's a big guy, but he's not nearly as quick or mobile as Kanter, and he doesn't appear to be as strong, despite the extra weight. He seems pretty skilled, but he doesn't have nearly the upside Kanter does.
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