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    Default Chad Ford Mock Draft 2.0: Raptors Select Jonas Valanciunas

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    Analysis: Many NBA scouts insist that Valanciunas could be the best international player in the draft. While Raptors president Bryan Colangelo hasn't been afraid to gamble on European players in the past, there are concerns about the buyout terms of Valanciunas' contract -- some teams are skeptical that he'll be in the NBA for the next few years. Still, he appears to be the most likely choice for the Raptors.

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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    Here we go:
    Valanciunas seems awesome. Hopefully the buyout is small (does anyone know the buyout? I haven't been able to find any info on this.) and that he actually wants to come to the NBA. Kleiza should help with Jonas immensely. I say, with the 5th - do it! Book 'em Dan-Oh.
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    no more euros im sick and tired of them, i say we trade this pick we need some experience

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    I don't know if I'm sold on this guy. I've only seen him on YouTube though so who knows, I'm not gonna pretend like I've seen any more... But what position do you guys envision him playing? I guess if he adds some weight he'd be at the C? I think the team looks fine at PF with Amir and Ed.
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    go download the NBA today podcast where they preview all the top players in the draft, they do an amazing job of telling you why, no team should touch this guy with that high of a pick

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    Quote RaptorDan wrote: View Post
    Valanciunas seems awesome. Hopefully the buyout is small (does anyone know the buyout? I haven't been able to find any info on this.) and that he actually wants to come to the NBA. Kleiza should help with Jonas immensely. I say, with the 5th - do it! Book 'em Dan-Oh.
    Whatever the buyout is, we can't offer more than $500k.

    I'm not that big on Valanciunas. He fouls at a concerning rate, even in the Euroleague, and if you watch his videos, he gets away with fouls that would be called in the NBA. I'm worried he won't be playing more than 10-15 minutes per game his first few seasons.

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    isnt this bargs 2.0?

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    isnt this bargs 2.0?
    Uh, no? But thanks for showing us that you know absolutely NOTHING about the players you're advising us to not draft, except that he's European.

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    Quote Quixotic wrote: View Post
    Uh, no? But thanks for showing us that you know absolutely NOTHING about the players you're advising us to not draft, except that he's European.
    Thanks for the info. I didn't know we could only offer $500,000. I realize he is a project, but he does have a lot of potential. His ceiling is pretty high. But man, what a weak draft. We will find out everyone's true basketball chops at the pre-draft workouts. My opinion is pretty high on this guy though.
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    Hopefully we don't get him.

    Quote RaptorDan wrote: View Post
    Thanks for the info. I didn't know we could only offer $500,000. I realize he is a project, but he does have a lot of potential. His ceiling is pretty high. But man, what a weak draft. We will find out everyone's true basketball chops at the pre-draft workouts. My opinion is pretty high on this guy though.
    If we are going to get a "project" it should be Bismack. He's younger, more ability defensively and freakish athleticism.

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    chad ford's mock draft from 2010 http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/espn-cha...draft-1369080/

    the guy is not accurate at all

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    If he really is going to stay in Europe for a couple of more years, I don't see him going in the top ten. Look at what happened to Splitter's stock when he was drafted. That said, I would have no problem if the Raptors drafted him and he didn't come right away. They aren't doing anything next year, anyway.
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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Hopefully we don't get him.



    If we are going to get a "project" it should be Bismack. He's younger, more ability defensively and freakish athleticism.
    Or Bismark could be older. We just don't know, do we?
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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    chad ford's mock draft from 2010 http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/espn-cha...draft-1369080/

    the guy is not accurate at all
    He was as close as anyone with that draft. And that was a full two months beforehand. I'd say he was pretty damn accurate, quite frankly, considering.
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    Its true, we have no idea how old Bismack is.
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    Fifth Overall Pick

    Q: What are your overall feelings on tonight?
    Colangelo: There are obviously a bunch of players we're going to have to look at. We have our work cut out for us going into this process, kind of narrowing down who we think might go in those top spots, especially in the three and four spots. We like six or seven players in this draft. I actually think there are quite a few that will be impact players in this league for years to come, and it was short on star power. You might argue that there are only a few stars, and they're right there at the top. We'll see how it plays out. I don't think it's a dramatic fall back, in terms of falling from three to five. In fact, we'll get a little more relief in terms of the salary cap, which will free up some money to maybe do some other things. We have to look at it as we're going to get a quality player at five, and do what we have to do that.

    Q: At five, do you want to maybe address a need or just take the best available talent?
    Colangelo: I've been saying all along, I think we're a team that has a long way to go, but you take the best talent. Obviously, we'll look at all the circumstances before I say that without hesitation. We've got to look at what other things happen between now and draft night, with respect to trade conversations, have to start lining up what free agent prospects we have. I think we're probably going to be taking the best player.

    Q: If you keep that pick, are you hopeful that you'll be getting a rotation player?
    Colangelo: It's probably too early to say that. We're committed to the development of young players. We've shown that with Ed Davis and DeMar DeRozan the last two years. Years ago, Andre Bargnani got the chance to play a lot as a rookie. With so many young players and so many things uncertain about the roster, it's hard to say whether or not the number five pick will be a rotation guy or an impact player next year. It might take a few years to get everything you want out of that pick.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    He was as close as anyone with that draft. And that was a full two months beforehand. I'd say he was pretty damn accurate, quite frankly, considering.
    bro I seen one of his where he had alabi going in the 20's

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Hopefully we don't get him.



    If we are going to get a "project" it should be Bismack. He's younger, more ability defensively and freakish athleticism.
    Not that I'm advocating for Valanciunas (should be obvious by now I'm not that high on him), but Biyombo is only "younger" by three and a half months. And that's only if his birth date is accurate.

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    chad ford's mock draft from 2010 http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/espn-cha...draft-1369080/

    the guy is not accurate at all
    Kind of hard to fault someone for a mock draft when who was actually picking where hadn't been decided. It makes a pretty big difference, you know.

    As for Alabi, a lot of mock drafts had him going anywhere from ~20 to ~40. Even this one here by Draftexpress, and they even had the benefit of making that mock 18 minutes before the draft:

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/
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    I'd rather have Kanter. Maybe Cavs take Valanciunas at 4, leaving Kanter up for grabs at 5th. Valanciunas has a nice wingspan, is athletic, and can block shots, but he's got a ton of work to do on his body, to be honest, I see him as a poor man's Pau Gasol. If you are going to draft a centre, draft one with some bulk and a thick trunk. We have enough slight, wiry guys on the team.

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