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    Default No Love for Iman Shumpert?

    Why not?

    Am I completely missing something about the most athletic guard available?
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    It's about money

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    I'm sure he'll get picked in the second round. But considering the Raptors only have one pick, there's no reason he'd be on their radar.

    They also need another shoot-first guard like they need a hole in the head.
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    I like him, there is so much pressure to go after the big names that I think the best players in this draft are going to be missed. 6'5 point guards are so rare

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    He's got some really impressive tools, but there's a reason why he's being mentioned as going in the 2nd round to undrafted.

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    i don't know how i feel about drafting someone who has the same first name as david bowie's wife
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    When is the last time that someone downright destroyed the skills/athleticism draft combine and was still slated to be a second round pick? I'm actually interested in knowing what type of player he compares to in terms of his particular skill set / athleticism.
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    Quote philwill wrote: View Post
    When is the last time that someone downright destroyed the skills/athleticism draft combine and was still slated to be a second round pick? I'm actually interested in knowing what type of player he compares to in terms of his particular skill set / athleticism.
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    Of the NYJ?

    No, seriously, I'm talking about basketball prospects. Like, as if, this is a basketball forum.
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    Bad joke I guess
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    Quote philwill wrote: View Post
    When is the last time that someone downright destroyed the skills/athleticism draft combine and was still slated to be a second round pick? I'm actually interested in knowing what type of player he compares to in terms of his particular skill set / athleticism.
    Don't know how their NCAA careers compared, but in terms of athleticism:

    Dwayne Mitchell, 2006, undrafted - 37.5 no-step vert, 41.5 max vert, 17 bench reps
    Timmy Bowers, 2004, undrafted - 37.0 no-step vert, 43.5 max vert, 13 bench reps

    What do you mean by skill set?

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    His abilities on the basketball court as related to the game, rather than his "natural" athletic abilities (which I am still also interested in a comparison for, despite the two listed above).

    So, I would really like to know a player that he could be compared to who is currently, or at least was, in the league.
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    Quote philwill wrote: View Post
    His abilities on the basketball court as related to the game, rather than his "natural" athletic abilities (which I am still also interested in a comparison for, despite the two listed above).

    So, I would really like to know a player that he could be compared to who is currently, or at least was, in the league.
    Well, I mean, you said he destroyed the athleticism and skills draft combine, and I don't recall him doing so aside from testing off the charts athletically.

    I'm not sure how to really compare him in terms of both athleticism and skills, as I don't think anyone has watched both Imam and every single athletic beast at the combine for the past 10 years.

    That said, the two guys I listed compared the best to Shumpert on paper, which isn't hard since Shumpert shoots so poorly and is so turnover prone. Other than them, I think looking for someone to compare him who actually was drafted will be a difficult task.

    - Speedy Claxton had a similar vertical, but completely opposite in strength and size, and was also a better NCAA shooter and point.
    - Mike Conley Jr., also undersized and a poor man's Shumpert athletically, was a far better NCAA point than Shumpert.
    - Nate Robinson might be the next best comparison to Shumpert athletically, but is as small as Shumpert is big. Also better shooter in college.
    - Troy Bell, another poor man's Shumpert athletically, as well as in size, and again a better shooter.
    - Ronnie Brewer, compares well to Shumpert in athleticism and size, but not a point.

    Iman Shumpert is just too unique in both dominating the combine's athleticism tests, but also underwhelming in college.

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    Hmmm... I feel like I need to see more of him, but I'm intrigued. I didn't get the impression he's really supposed to be a PG.
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