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Thread: Chad Ford Mock Draft 4.0: Raptors select Jan Vesely

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I'd be fine with that except the Raptors already have Ed Davis. If the Raptors are going to trade Bargnani, then it would be nice to get a center who can also (key word there: also) score. That's one reason I'm so big on them drafting Kanter. The danger is reacting too far the other way and getting a good defensive team that can't score to save their life.
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    Man I can not stand Chad ford all he is doing is projecting us to pick a euro because BC is our gm we need defense why does he pick is with a defensive player? During the combine watch the reactions of the other people when he talks I know they want to call him a idiot

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    Quote MyMomLovesMe wrote: View Post
    Jay did not know how to use him, adding him to our lineup did not even register a blip on our radar. People keep saying Jay never had the players, he had a much more balanced Roster than Mitchell had and it had little impact on us winning games.

    Bryan paid a high price for Marion, and it did nothing for us. (..and yes Marion wanted to leave, I would too)
    Well, it didn't register a blip except for the fact that the team won 9 of their last 13 games that season. And they had Bosh, Marion, Bargnani, and injured Calderon and a bunch of below average players, including 2 backup PGs that didn't even last a year in the league after that. It's strange that Triano didn't somehow figure out a way to make that a playoff team.
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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    Man I can not stand Chad ford all he is doing is projecting us to pick a euro because BC is our gm we need defense why does he pick is with a defensive player? During the combine watch the reactions of the other people when he talks I know they want to call him a idiot
    dont forget he also projected Tristan Thompson as well just because hes from Toronto. Gotta love the american bias of our canadian franchises.

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    if kanter isnt there ten trade down

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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    If we are the worst defensive team in the league 2 years in a row, then we should trade down and get Bismack, Who cares about offense when you can probably average 3 blocks a game.
    4.26 but that is still horrible. I really hope we get Bismack. Everyone wants Kanters because he has better O but I don't see the point of that. We didn't have prob offensive, we had probs defensively and Bismack IMO is the best defensive player in this draft. He's physically ready to play in the NBA and he's young so he has plenty of time to work on his footwork/offensive. He has the best defensive instincts in the draft which you can't teach.

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    First of all, I am still scratching my head over why we let Shawn Marion go. We need a tough-nosed defender, rebounding machine, freak athlete at the 3 to make up for Andrea's lackluster D and rebounding. Kawhi Leonard is the easy choice. Look at how Marion is shutting down Lebron. Kawhi Leonard has all the skills and determination to become the next Marion. Plus, he knows DeRozan. That's a bonus.

    Im pretty sure he wanted to leave.

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    Ford did say that Vesely was at the top of the Euro board for the Raps. I dont know if he'd be brazen enough to write that if he did not have some inside info. That said it does not mean the Raps will pick Vesely @ #5. And I hope not.

    I wonder if there is a dna test to ensure if these guys can actually put on weight... and keep it. This guy is rail thin and would get slapped around unless he had a high motor and an "attitude" ala Kirilenko.

    I am feeling Kemba...actually "scared" we pass him over and he turns out to be a CP3. His intangibles (leadership and will) just jump out when I read anything about him. He was in town today (or was it yesterday)...does anyone have any info on it?

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    Word is Vesely had a really good game. Be afraid.
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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    Ford did say that Vesely was at the top of the Euro board for the Raps. I dont know if he'd be brazen enough to write that if he did not have some inside info. That said it does not mean the Raps will pick Vesely @ #5. And I hope not.

    I wonder if there is a dna test to ensure if these guys can actually put on weight... and keep it. This guy is rail thin and would get slapped around unless he had a high motor and an "attitude" ala Kirilenko.

    I am feeling Kemba...actually "scared" we pass him over and he turns out to be a CP3. His intangibles (leadership and will) just jump out when I read anything about him. He was in town today (or was it yesterday)...does anyone have any info on it?

    Yep, Kemba and Knight were in town yesterday doing workouts, although at separate times and not against each other. Go to http://www.nba.com/raptors/2011draft for interviews and other insight.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Word is Vesely had a really good game. Be afraid.
    Via Jay Satur:

    The Raptors brass watched Vesely put up 18 pts (5-6 FGM-A, 2-3 3FGM-A, 2-6 FTM-A), w/ 5 rebs, 1 ast, 1 blk & 5 TOs in 24 minutes today.

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    The only positive I can see about Vesely is with JJ here at least he won't be forced to do too much?
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    It's a sad state of affairs when I'm trying to talk myself into a player
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Ouch. I don't think I've missed that many open shots at the foul line as he did in that video. The earlier clips I've seen showed his jumpshot had improved. Apparently not.
    im assuming thats right near the end of his workout, looks cashed. if its not then my prediction for leonard is waaay off.

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    Something tells me this whole idea of trading down to get Biyombo is a huge risk, in that I don't think the kid is gonna fall too far. Some GM with balls is gonna pick him (especially if the kid impresses in his European workouts) fairly high. If Kanter is gone by the fifth pick, I'd have to seriously think long and hard about taking BB, or Kemba. Kemba just has winner written all over him. More of a sure thing than Knight, and I don't see Knight having a considerably higher upside. But maybe draft Biyombo and play him at centre. The Shaq era is over, and there are very few huge beastly centres left. I totally think BB can play centre the way the league is now. A daring move, but seriously, if ever there was a draft to make a daring move in...
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    Forget trading down. Just take BB fifth. In two years we'll be glad we did.

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    Considering the short leash BC is under, he'll take the most NBA ready player. I suspect he wants Knight but I don't think Knight will be there at 5. I think Utah is going to take him since they seem to love Knight and have a history of selecting point guards in the draft. So, at the 5 slot, I'm quite certain, BC is taking Kemba Walker because he's the most NBA ready of a lot of the prospects who will be available at this slot. I actually think this is a blessing in disguise as I believe Kemba will be the steal of the draft. You can tell from his interview yesterday, that Kemba has a quiet confidence and swagger that will make him a big success in the NBA.

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    Quote Jay_Dubyah wrote: View Post
    First of all, I am still scratching my head over why we let Shawn Marion go. We need a tough-nosed defender, rebounding machine, freak athlete at the 3 to make up for Andrea's lackluster D and rebounding. Kawhi Leonard is the easy choice. Look at how Marion is shutting down Lebron. Kawhi Leonard has all the skills and determination to become the next Marion. Plus, he knows DeRozan. That's a bonus.
    Shawn Marion did not want to stay in Toronto. It wasn't officially said, but after watching his end-of-season presser, it was clear he wasn't coming back. Don't think the Raptors could've done much about Marion, the JO trade was a salary dump to sign a big name summer free-agent which ended up being Hedo. Sad.

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    Quote jd4 wrote: View Post
    Considering the short leash BC is under, he'll take the most NBA ready player. I suspect he wants Knight but I don't think Knight will be there at 5. I think Utah is going to take him since they seem to love Knight and have a history of selecting point guards in the draft. So, at the 5 slot, I'm quite certain, BC is taking Kemba Walker because he's the most NBA ready of a lot of the prospects who will be available at this slot. I actually think this is a blessing in disguise as I believe Kemba will be the steal of the draft. You can tell from his interview yesterday, that Kemba has a quiet confidence and swagger that will make him a big success in the NBA.
    If Colangelo wants the most NBA ready player, why would he take a 19 year old who will take years to learn the PG position?
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    Quote pesterm1 wrote: View Post
    im assuming thats right near the end of his workout, looks cashed. if its not then my prediction for leonard is waaay off.
    Why would they (wonder who) put that clip out. It was not impressive and frankly quite boring and yes he was gassed.

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    Quote Tank wrote: View Post
    Yep, Kemba and Knight were in town yesterday doing workouts, although at separate times and not against each other. Go to http://www.nba.com/raptors/2011draft for interviews and other insight.
    Thk you Tank.

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