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    5 is not too high. after reading the grantland article and hollinger talk about him im sold on him. hes going to be a strong, strong defender for years. dude is absolutely legit and less of a question mark than say, knight or kanter.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    If you're drafting Biyombo you need to put the blinders on in terms of offense. You need to look right past it, nothing to see here, and determine if what he can give you on defense and the glass will be that outstanding that you can live with the limitations of offense. His personality is one that suggests in a few years he could be a strong leader. #5 seems a stretch but #10, which is on the block, would make sense.
    He could end up being a steal at #10 though. He is very intriguing, because I feel he could potentially be a much more important player in the NBA than any other player in the draft. If you could draft a young Ben Wallace, having known the career he has had, would you draft him top 5? Even if he had no offense whatsoever? But just like most of the players in this years draft, there is a lot of upside which is being talked about. No player in this draft is even close to a safe pick, I'd say Irving and Walker are the safest picks in the draft.

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    Quote JoePanini wrote: View Post
    If you could draft a young Ben Wallace, having known the career he has had, would you draft him top 5? Even if he had no offense whatsoever?
    Of course but we don't know that and neither does anybody else. If people had that guarantee he might go number one in a draft like this one.

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    see that help defense? his man defense? he'd be perfect in casey's zone D.
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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
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    Pretty much what I've been saying.

    AMAZING shot blocker
    Natural feel of offense
    Great rebound
    Great help side D
    Can run pick and roll to the basket
    Offensive rebound and dunk
    Can dunk well
    Explosive

    Raw back to the basket
    Raw jumpshooter
    Raw offensively overall

    The offensively shouldn't really matter to us, we have Alex English and other great offensive coaches that can teach him O, he does EVERYTHING we need a player right now with crazy potential. DRAFT HIM NOW!

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    I love in the second vid a little after the 2min mark when the player in green hacks him, and hurts his own arm doing it!

    Watching him run as a big man I am encouraged that he won't develop back problems. He seems to run instead of plod or pound his heels past the floor.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    5 is not too high. after reading the grantland article and hollinger talk about him im sold on him. hes going to be a strong, strong defender for years. dude is absolutely legit and less of a question mark than say, knight or kanter.
    I would be excited with Biyombo, and I think he is simply the reason BC said he was targeting another top 10 pick. That said I disagree and would say 5 would be too high for him, although danger that Detroit could take him at 8 if we pry Jordan's 9 or MIL's 10.

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    If you're drafting Biyombo you need to put the blinders on in terms of offense. You need to look right past it, nothing to see here, and determine if what he can give you on defense and the glass will be that outstanding that you can live with the limitations of offense. His personality is one that suggests in a few years he could be a strong leader. #5 seems a stretch but #10, which is on the block, would make sense.
    I would agree he would be a strong leader. The interviews I have seen or read I have been quite impressed with him.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Of course but we don't know that and neither does anybody else. If people had that guarantee he might go number one in a draft like this one.
    Yeah, but no player in this draft has any guarantees. This is a draft where I think the teams drafting late in the lotto and mid-late first round will have players who will produce just as well as lottery picks. There isn't a huge difference in talent from the 5-20 pick, and anyone could potentially be the best player in the draft. Teams like San Antonio, OKC, Memphis, Boston, Miami etc.. will be the winners of this draft.

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    Anyone on the fence, read the grantland piece. It'll warm the cockles of your heart.
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    Anyone on the fence, read the grantland piece. It'll warm the cockles of your heart.
    Dude, the last time I heard those words were from a stalker. Sent chills up my spine.

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    I only want to be friends!
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    I only want to be friends!
    Ha!

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    Default Colangelo comments more on Biyombo:

    “He is so raw that with a little bit of focus and coaching, he’s an interesting prospect for sure,” Colangelo said. “Someone is going to get a very good player there. We’re looking at the health and making sure everything is good there and we’ll look at the background stuff, but he’s a guy I think we have to have in that group at No. 5. He showed some things offensively (at a workout Monday in New York) that you just can’t teach with the athleticism and the hops. I saw some things that were very impressive. Then you look at the rawness and say ‘Lot of work to do’ and are you willing to go through that. We have to decide what the right situation is for us.”
    “He doesn’t have a broken shot by the way,” Colangelo said. “It’s not broken at all. We’ve seen broken.”
    Source: TorontoSun.com

    “I don’t really care if someone doesn’t have (raw Congolese teenaged centre) Bismack Biyombo on the board at five, I’ll consider him if he’s the right pick for this team and the right talent and we project him out the right way,” Colangelo said, discussing his draft options after introducing Dwane Casey as the team’s new coach.
    Source: Thestar.com

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    Default Red flag

    I was told by a trusted league source today in New York at NBA Draft media day that Bismack Biyombo has a medical red flag with is back.

    Biyombo's medical report was handed out to every single NBA team by his agent. At least one team's medical staff decided there was an issue with his back that they deemed a red flag. The source said some teams may have decided it wasn't that much of an issue, but some teams have decided it is an issue.

    The source said there are also some question marks on the medical report regarding both of Biyombo's knees, but the source said his knees weren't enough of an issue to be considered a red flag.

    A similar situation came up a couple years ago with DeJuan Blair, who was projected as a lottery pick, and he fell all the way to the second round.

    It's unlikely Biyombo falls that far in this NBA Draft. The league source said they still think Biyombo goes either No. 8 to the Pistons or No. 9 to the Bobcats.
    Source: thehoopsreport.com

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    Default Biyombo won't make it past the Bobcats at #9?

    Bismack Biyombo did a lot to help his stock today in Charlotte; word is he was everything expected and a little more likely cementing his floor at #9 to Charlotte. The problem with Biyombo to Charlotte is that Toronto is still very much in the hunt for him with the #5 overall selection.

    Word out of Cleveland is that the Cleveland Cavaliers will use both the #1 and the #4 overall picks. Meaning they will not be entertaining trades on those picks unless something major happens between now and the draft.
    Source: Hoopsworld.com

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    Default Biyombo impressive in final workout

    Biyombo was a part of a six-man workout in Charlotte in front of coach Paul Silas, general manager Rich Cho and owner Michael Jordan. Matched up against Marcus Morris, Jordan Hamilton, Chris Singleton, JaJuan Johnson and Thomas Coleman, Biyombo did what one might expect -- blocked shots and threw down dunks in spectacular fashion -- but he also managed to display a shooting touch that was better than advertised. Biyombo worked out for the Raptors on Monday and the Pistons on Tuesday.

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    Default Doug Smith says if not Knight, than Biyombo

    Smith says if it's not Knight, it's Biyombo:

    Now, I’ll say that if Brandon Knight falls to No. 5 – and it would most likely only happen if Utah takes Kanter at No. 3 – they’ll snap him up but of the group that’s likely to be there, why not take a shot at Biyombo, a 6-9 bit of an energetic beast.

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    Default Biyombo Buyout Issue?

    Congo forward Bismack Biyombo was a late invitee to the NBA draft's green room Thursday, which would indicate he could land in the lottery, but according to league sources Biyombo doesn't have a letter of clearance from FIBA and is subject to a buyout.
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    I can hear it now, straight outta Jack's mouth when Biyombo has a nice dunk or block: "Ohhhh, Biyombo-clot mon!"
    Keep Calm & Chive On

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    It sounds like one of Kanter or Knight will be there at #5. They need to pull the trigger on that and forget about these higher risk guys.

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    I saw this. So if Doug is right and we take him 5th, we'd have to pay a hefty salary AND a buyout amount. Not that it's coming out of my pocket, but sounds like going through a lot of trouble for a very big question mark who hasn't shown much of anything except his wingspan.

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