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Chad Ford Mock Draft 5.0: Raptors still selecting Jan Vesely
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So where does 6'11" get you in the scenario where player upside doesn't turn into actual ability?
I think you're left with a guy who can't shoot, who can't handle and who can't defend. A guy like that is no good to you no matter if he 7'11".
It's a risky pick.
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Apollo wrote: View PostThe year Hoffa was selected, Babcock took the job one a week or so before the draft after coming from Minnesota where he served as an assistant. That year the Wolves had a good team and so they weren't expecting to have a shot at anybody who wasn't in the back end of the draft. Because of this they chose not to scout the lottery. So, when Babcock came in here he leaned heavily on the remaining scouts to help him make the decision. It's still his choice to live by, he chose size over the best player available, but you have to think that his scouting department still had a misread on Hoffa and that bad report landed in Babcock's lap. Was that Kelly's fault? Sure, I'll buy that. I also put it on MLSE because they failed to get something done fast enough to give the new GM time to adequately prepare for one of the most important events for a mediocre team trying to not be a mediocre team. They almost did it again this season so props to them for getting their act together.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Apollo wrote: View PostSo where does 6'11" get you in the scenario where player upside doesn't turn into actual ability?
I think you're left with a guy who can't shoot, who can't handle and who can't defend. A guy like that is no good to you no matter if he 7'11".
It's a risky pick.
(I'm not asking you, Apollo, since you feel the same way. Just backing you up on this point)Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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The whole Euro thing becomes mute when you hear interest in Kanter and JV. The fact that Ford always has us selecting him compounded by the fact that I don't see him mentioned as a pick by the other teams has me a bit disturbed.
Statistically speaking, I would like to hear more noise about the kid from other camps. His size and FT shooting bother me. The game is so much faster and the players are much stronger at this level.
Anyway, I don't think my criteria is solid enough to dismiss him, but it is a little suspicious to me that after 5 Ford mocks we are still at Vesely and I hear so little in other camps about him. I would feel more comfortable if his name received a little more wear and tear by the other teams that are selecting near us.Last edited by MyMomLovesMe; Thu Jun 16, 2011, 11:54 AM.
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hateslosing wrote: View Post
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1
Vesely is a very good talent by all accounts and I can't help but think a lot of the hate directed at him on these forums is a result of his euroness.
The Raptors need a good wing defender who has a reliable shooting game, and a centre who can control the paint and the glass on both ends of the floor. Vesely doesn't bring these traits. It has nothing to do with him being European.-"You can’t run from me. I mean, my heart don’t bleed Kool-Aid."
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This from his chat wrap that just finished:
Allan (Toronto)
Where do you see the Raptors going with their pick?
Chad Ford
(1:10 PM)
A very tough call. If Brandon Knight is still on the board, I think that will be the pick. If he's not, sounds like Kanter, Vesely, Kawhi Leonard & Kemba Walker are in the mix. Not sure which way they are leaning. If it was me ... I'd take Leonard here.Eh follow my TWITTER!
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So guys, there's this question I have that's been keeping me up at night. I was wondering if someone can help. Is it:
1. Vuh-SEE-lee
2. VES-lee
3. Vuh-SLEE
4. Vee-suh-lee
5. Vuh-SEL-ee
6. VAS-lee
???
And just to confirm.. "Jan Vesely" -- his name translated to English is "John Merry".Last edited by ebrian; Thu Jun 16, 2011, 03:58 PM.your pal,
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ceez wrote: View Postif we come away from the draft with only vesely i'm doneRead my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Apollo wrote: View PostSo where does 6'11" get you in the scenario where player upside doesn't turn into actual ability?
I think you're left with a guy who can't shoot, who can't handle and who can't defend. A guy like that is no good to you no matter if he 7'11".
It's a risky pick."Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
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