Kawhi Leonard

[Rapzilla]

I love this guy but have you heard him talk? Sounds slow Insane hands and length for his size. Reminds me of a Shawn Marion... oh wait, we've been down that road before :s Also wouldn't mind Kanter but he will be snapped up way before we get our pick...

[phez]

why do some of you think the raptors need ANOTHER rebounder?

[WJF]

I wouldn't be upset with picking him up either, but public perception will be that he could have used that second round pick to fill another need. There are already a lot of people that think he should have kept the pick to draft and take a chance on a new player with potential instead of Johnson whom has been in the league for a couple of years already. Linas will be back eventually and is under contract for another 4 years if I'm not mistaken.

I think we got more out of James Johnson than any second round pick we selected. Sure there are the odd sleepers that pan out, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Linas is signed for this upcoming season and two more, the last being a player option, if he recovers I don't see his 4.5 mil being a problem for the team. Johnson showed some very good things when given minutes, he also showed what he needs to improve on, give him an off-season with a team that had defined a role for him and see what he brings.

[Papa Burgundy]

why do some of you think the raptors need ANOTHER rebounder?

Joking?

[jeff_hostetler]

I love this guy but have you heard him talk? Sounds slow Insane hands and length for his size. Reminds me of a Shawn Marion... oh wait, we've been down that road before :s Also wouldn't mind Kanter but he will be snapped up way before we get our pick...

Yeah...and it worked out great for the time he was here.

[NoPropsneeded]

no thx our future SF is JJ. And he is already a great defender and and stat sheet stuffer. He also has room to improve this off season so i'll go with a PG this draft.

[Rapzilla]

That's what I was kinda getting at...

[IROR]

His #s look average to below average to me... (I think he did like 3 reps in bench test).

combine numbers aren't a huge deal, scouts know the players well before they hit the combine. Kevin durant couldn't even do one bench press when he did it!

[SuperRaptor]

why do some of you think the raptors need ANOTHER rebounder?

You can never have enough rebounding.

[IROR]

also, even if Kawhi is a good fit etc etc, it's a sure thing that BC will take the best player on the board. I love leonard (see a bit of Gerald wallace in him, little bit shawn marion) but i think the only way to get him is to trade for second top 10 pick, there's gonna be guys ahead of leonard the Raps just can't pass up. Keep in mind the raptors will likely be in the lottery next year, unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat. If they're still using the OKC model, they'll be in the thick of things at next year's draft when the talent level is gonna be CRAZY. omf if the raps get harrison barnes....

[RaptorDan]

I haven't seen this picture posted anywhere on the forum so I thought I would post it. Its Holly MacKenzie from the score comparing her hand to Kawhi's.



I couldn't find the picture of her comparing her vagina size to Kawhi's penis though.

[RAPresenting]

also, even if Kawhi is a good fit etc etc, it's a sure thing that BC will take the best player on the board. I love leonard (see a bit of Gerald wallace in him, little bit shawn marion) but i think the only way to get him is to trade for second top 10 pick, there's gonna be guys ahead of leonard the Raps just can't pass up. Keep in mind the raptors will likely be in the lottery next year, unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat. If they're still using the OKC model, they'll be in the thick of things at next year's draft when the talent level is gonna be CRAZY. omf if the raps get harrison barnes....

Gerald Wallace and Shawn Marion are two great defensive minded wings to be compared to. Both are great in the open floor, defending man to man and help defense, can get in the passing lanes, block shots and can score to a certain extent. he should definitely deserves a look from the Raps especially if that second lottery pick that's been rumors is in their hands.

Harrison Barnes would be awesome in a Raps uniform!

[Matt52]

I haven't seen this picture posted anywhere on the forum so I thought I would post it. Its Holly MacKenzie from the score comparing her hand to Kawhi's.



I couldn't find the picture of her comparing her vagina size to Kawhi's penis though.

Yellow card.

[jeff_hostetler]

Leonard's workouts are geared towards his development as a full-time wing player. He sees himself as a long-term shooting guard/small forward with the ability to defend multiple positions, and seems to have a very good understanding of what he needs to work on.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz1PZ5j2y00
http://www.draftexpress.com

I just read the new profile on draft express. Apparently he sees himself more as a 2/3 than as a pure 3 straight up. That kind of pushes him over the top for me, as he not only can be used at the 2 to go alongside J.J., but would seem to prefer some time there. Leonard and Johnson at the 2/3 for spells would be a nightmare for other teams, defensively speaking.

2 tough, strong, shot blocking, rebounding wings on the floor for the Raps at the same time? I don't think that's ever happened. And from what I keep hearing, Leonard's offense is coming along nicely. It's not perfect, obviously, but he's not ineffective on that end.

Derozan/Leonard/Johnson. If Leonard keeps developing his 3 point shot, that's about as complete a wing rotation as you could hope for.

[Raptorsss]

Chris Singleton>Kawhi Leonard.

The only reason Leonard gets more publicity, is his hands and rebounding. Singleton is a much more accomplished defender, leader, and shooter.

He's the Patrick Patterson of this year's draft. Patterson will turn out to be the best 3-guard of last years draft, better than Paul George, Evan Turner, Aminu, and Hayward.

[Matt52]

Chris Singleton>Kawhi Leonard.

The only reason Leonard gets more publicity, is his hands and rebounding. Singleton is a much more accomplished defender, leader, and shooter.

He's the Patrick Patterson of this year's draft. Patterson will turn out to be the best 3-guard of last years draft, better than Paul George, Evan Turner, Aminu, and Hayward.

Patterson is a PF.

[RAPresenting]

I just read the new profile on draft express. Apparently he sees himself more as a 2/3 than as a pure 3 straight up. That kind of pushes him over the top for me, as he not only can be used at the 2 to go alongside J.J., but would seem to prefer some time there. Leonard and Johnson at the 2/3 for spells would be a nightmare for other teams, defensively speaking.

2 tough, strong, shot blocking, rebounding wings on the floor for the Raps at the same time? I don't think that's ever happened. And from what I keep hearing, Leonard's offense is coming along nicely. It's not perfect, obviously, but he's not ineffective on that end.

Derozan/Leonard/Johnson. If Leonard keeps developing his 3 point shot, that's about as complete a wing rotation as you could hope for.

If Demar is resting a nice unit could be Bayless, Leonard, JJ, Davis and Dre. 2 Good scorers in Bayless and Dre with two athletic wings able to leak out on the fast break (Leonard and JJ) and 3 good shot blocking/rebounding players in Davis, JJ and Leonard to offset Dre's limitations.

[Maleko]

Patterson is a PF.

Exactly.

[Bendit]

This man is going to have some broken fingers in his career. He'd be crazy on a guitar.

[Mediumcore]

I think we got more out of James Johnson than any second round pick we selected. Sure there are the odd sleepers that pan out, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Linas is signed for this upcoming season and two more, the last being a player option, if he recovers I don't see his 4.5 mil being a problem for the team. Johnson showed some very good things when given minutes, he also showed what he needs to improve on, give him an off-season with a team that had defined a role for him and see what he brings.

That's sort of what I'm getting at. If you already have JJ and are comfortable with him at SF then does it make sense to go after Leonard with your lottery pick? If you do go after Leonard then you're saying that you have no faith in JJ as a starter or that the Kleiza signing was a mistake.