Ah, good point. I wasn't even thinking about that. It would have to involve Jose Calderon and someone else more than likely heading out. The bit says it's being talked, it doesn't say finalized. If they're talking about it then they could be at any stage of the discussion, including preliminary discussions. Bottom line, just because the mentioned pieces don't fit doesn't mean that there is no truth to the rumor.
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_110620.htmlThough that is in question as the Jazz, mostly expected to take a point guard, is now rumored to be interested in Kanter to go with Derrick Favors in building a big man core.
The Jazz is rumored to be making Paul Millsap available. But they also are said to be holding open the possibility of moving Al Jefferson in a larger deal if they can get Kanter, a deal that could net them a shooting guard, like Monta Ellis or Kevin Martin with Golden State at No. 11 and Houston No. 14. So then Utah would go big.
If they are looking for a 2, Barbosa and Kleiza would work
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My two dealbreakers are interest in defense and work ethic. Those are things I really don't think a player can learn. It's either part of them or it isn't. You can fake it temporarily, but I think you're going to have trouble winning with guys like that.
Two years left on Jeffersons contract
Two years for BC
I could see short and long term value in this for BC
And with the 12th pick the raptors select Bismack Byombo a player who is maybe the safest bet for a high interest in defense and work ethic
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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
The Raptors have the right coach to get Al playing good defense.
My feeling is that there are 4 reasons a player can "get it".
Maturity- A player simply grows up and realizes he needs to take his career more seriously. Unfortunately a lot of these situations are either shortlived, or only work in the right situation. Examples: Ron Artest, Zach Randolph, Rasheed Wallace
Opportunity- A player simply needs the playing time. Example: Amir Johnson
Niche- A lot of players simply take a while to figure out their place in the league. Most of these guys were stars in college, so for some it takes longer to become role players. Example: Kris Humphries
Positon- Some players take time to learn their NBA position. This is especially true of the PG position. Example: Chauncey Billups
The first and last reasons are probably the riskiest.
id take this trade and try to unload jose onto them also . with the twelfth pick we can take jimmer fredette
Trade Davis and Amir for jefferson and pick
Start Weems as our Sf
Championship team right there ;p
A lot of guys around here seem to be really enthusiastic about picking up a guy that both Minnesota and apparently Utah were willing to give away for basically nothing. Perhaps there's a good reason for that.
I dont think that this trade is gonna happen simply because IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE for the raps. Why waste our pick for another pf? Besides the raps drafting vesely at #5, if this trade goes through, i will shoot myself!!
Here's my dream scenario involving what has already been posted with the rumoured Utah, and Phoenix trade:
Future 2nd Round from Toronto
Phoenix gets a possible pg of the future with Bayless and as well Bargnani would actually have a center in Gortat to play next too.
Utah gets its 5th pick and now is able to draft Kanter and Knight as was mentioned earlier.
Sacremento does this trade to gain a pg who does is not looking to score, and get it to Tyreke, and James Johnson has the chance to be their starting SF
Toronto gets a hard worker in Millsap as their new starting PF. Nash becomes the stabilizing force for the next few years at PG. Lopez becomes our backup Centre. Fredette becomes our 3pt threat off the bench, and Leonard as our defensive minded SF. Garcia cap filler, and as well backup SG
I would also consider buying a 2nd round pick to draft Corey Joseph, he's a first rounder if he stays one more year of school.
So our depth chart looks like:
Seriously what is wrong with people on here lately?
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