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    Default Call me crazy, but now that Casey is on board, could JuJu be back in our plans?

    To me, Julian Wright is the kind of player Casey would probably like: hard-nosed defender, huge motor, good ball distributor, doesn't demand any shots. The kind of guy he can put in the game to replace someone who isn't giving the proper effort. I see Weems and Evans leaving for sure, but something tells me JuJu might get a second chance. Thoughts?

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    Wright is likely gone. I don't think he impressed head office with his attitude and James Johnson brings just about everything Wright does, but with more skills.
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    I can see where you're coming from with this, but if Triano is actually filling some management position right now JuJu is gone.

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    Our best one on one wing defender and will probably be gone because jay is a idiot with no concept of rotations or defense. For someone who desperately wants a defensive team even if offense is sacrificed I would hate to let this guy go but politics always wins

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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    Our best one on one wing defender and will probably be gone because jay is a idiot with no concept of rotations or defense. For someone who desperately wants a defensive team even if offense is sacrificed I would hate to let this guy go but politics always wins
    Jay has nothing to do with Wright's future as a Raptor or NBA player. The kid was given different opportunities throughout his short career, he has started 40 games in the NBA. While he has shown decent 1 on 1 defense and an ability to pass the ball, he has not shown the ability to make an open shot or even knock down free throws at a decent clip for a perimeter player. While I think he has a good feel for the game I think his basketball IQ is low, and that, not Jay, is what is keeping him from being successful.

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    I can buy this. He could be our DeShawn Stevenson, except that Wright can't make a shot to save his life, and I'm thinking floor spacing and extending the defense is going to be top in Casey's plan.

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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    I can buy this. He could be our DeShawn Stevenson, except that Wright can't make a shot to save his life, and I'm thinking floor spacing and extending the defense is going to be top in Casey's plan.
    Well, that's the thing. Shawn Marion's jumper is the Mona Lisa compared to Wright's. There's no way he'll ever be a solid rotation player in this league until he fixes it. And when I say fix it, I mean COMPLETELY scraps it and builds an entirely new jumper from scratch. If he doesn't take this summer to go train with a shooting coach, then he's an absolute fool. But in small does, say, 12 minutes a game, he serves a useful purpose on any team, with or without a jumper.

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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    Jay has nothing to do with Wright's future as a Raptor or NBA player. The kid was given different opportunities throughout his short career, he has started 40 games in the NBA. While he has shown decent 1 on 1 defense and an ability to pass the ball, he has not shown the ability to make an open shot or even knock down free throws at a decent clip for a perimeter player. While I think he has a good feel for the game I think his basketball IQ is low, and that, not Jay, is what is keeping him from being successful.
    No, I'd argue he has a high basketball IQ. He can still be our Shawn Marion, if he can improve his 3-point shooting a smudge. Both Marion and JuJu score most of their points 10-ft and in.
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    Quote LeeZ wrote: View Post
    To me, Julian Wright is the kind of player Casey would probably like: hard-nosed defender, huge motor, good ball distributor, doesn't demand any shots. The kind of guy he can put in the game to replace someone who isn't giving the proper effort. I see Weems and Evans leaving for sure, but something tells me JuJu might get a second chance. Thoughts?
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    Gone!! Bye bye.....!!!!

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    Yeah, you are crazy. Below average player who refused to come off the bench. Just how you want to begin, no ACCOUNTABILIY. He sat on the bench before he came here and he sat on the bench for a 22 win team. If he should be picked up by another team you will not be reading about him as the second coming of Rodman. Hello Tokyo... Enough on Julian Wright already.

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    Quote meductic wrote: View Post
    Yeah, you are crazy. Below average player who refused to come off the bench. Just how you want to begin, no ACCOUNTABILIY. He sat on the bench before he came here and he sat on the bench for a 22 win team. If he should be picked up by another team you will not be reading about him as the second coming of Rodman. Hello Tokyo... Enough on Julian Wright already.
    Wright refused to go into one game... that doesn't mean he'll always or has regularily done that.

    In reality I understand exactly where he is coming from. The guy wasn't given opportunities to play early, regardless of how badly the Raps needed defenders. Then he is given an opportunity to play, due to injuries, and he looked good out there. Then Triano returns to NOT playing Wright even though he had looked like the best SF the Raps had up to that point in time.

    Now you get to that specific game where the Raps are completely getting destroyed, no one is trying, no hustle and no defense... and Triano leaves Wright on the bench until the game is completely out of reach? How ridiculous is that.

    I think that day and Wrights actions said alot more about Triano and the organization than it said about Wright. I wish more players would have stood up and made a statement about what was really wrong with the organization and where the lack of accountability really began

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    Quote GarbageTime wrote: View Post
    Wright refused to go into one game... that doesn't mean he'll always or has regularily done that.

    In reality I understand exactly where he is coming from. The guy wasn't given opportunities to play early, regardless of how badly the Raps needed defenders. Then he is given an opportunity to play, due to injuries, and he looked good out there. Then Triano returns to NOT playing Wright even though he had looked like the best SF the Raps had up to that point in time.
    Now you get to that specific game where the Raps are completely getting destroyed, no one is trying, no hustle and no defense... and Triano leaves Wright on the bench until the game is completely out of reach? How ridiculous is that.

    I think that day and Wrights actions said alot more about Triano and the organization than it said about Wright. I wish more players would have stood up and made a statement about what was really wrong with the organization and where the lack of accountability really began
    ...and how much was he getting paid? Is he or is he not a professional? Do you think a 22 win team has the luxury of having role players dictate their playing time. In my view this was inexcusable, no matter who the coach is. Casey will not always be popular with his players... no coach is. Allowing this guy to return is setting the team up for a repeat of the Detroit situation. For the reasons listed above about his short comings it is time to move on..

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    U guys realize that julian shots a better % than james johnson

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    JuJu, still can be an integral part of this team, he's athletic, long, smart, and a good passer. And he's not a liability on offense, the dude is only 23 and still has room to grow.
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    Quote grindhouse wrote: View Post
    U guys realize that julian shots a better % than james johnson
    That's not good gauge for a guy who got most of his points through putting in junk around the rim. I don't want either of those guys getting many looks.

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    ...and how much was he getting paid? Is he or is he not a professional? Do you think a 22 win team has the luxury of having role players dictate their playing time. In my view this was inexcusable, no matter who the coach is. Casey will not always be popular with his players... no coach is. Allowing this guy to return is setting the team up for a repeat of the Detroit situation. For the reasons listed above about his short comings it is time to move on..
    who cares how much he is getting paid? How does that influence anything? How much was Jay getting paid? Shouldn't he be professional to? Treat each player with same respect? accountability? Would you sit there with your thumb up your ass at your job if your boss did something similar to you? Would you just say "yes sir. You pay me so you can treat me with as little respect as you want! I don't care that I worked harder than those girls with big tits. I don't care that I can do more to help this business than them. I don't want the promotion I just want a pay cheque. I don't care about my self esteem and pride." Being 'professional' doesn't mean you just do as you are told all the time... thats called being a pussy.

    Does a 22 win team have the luxury of playing guys who aren't helping them win? and not playing guys who may have just much ability/opportunity to help them win?

    I agree it was inexcusable... inexcusable to not to put Wright in earlier. Inexcusable to leave the players on the floor who were not trying, not putting in an effort and not benifiting the team. Inexcusable to ask a guy who the coach overlooked all game for NO REASON to go out in a meaningless game lost due to EVERYONE else.

    This isn't Solomon Alabi we are talking about. This is a guy who proved he deserved to be out there every day but didn't because the girls with tits were always given priority.

    I wish more players would have done what Wright did. I would have loved if all those guys on the bench sat there and refused to go in... send a message that what had been happening for the last 2-3 years was utter bullshit.

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    No, I'd argue he has a high basketball IQ. He can still be our Shawn Marion, if he can improve his 3-point shooting a smudge. Both Marion and JuJu score most of their points 10-ft and in.
    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Forget Marion, he might not even be able to be our DeShawn Stevenson. While I do agree Wright did a decent job for the team, we've got to stop blowing players out of proportion. You're not going to see other teams eying Wright, because most teams have guys like him, if not better. It should tell you something that the Hornets gave up their lottery project for Belinelli, and I don't think they regretted that trade one bit.

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    who cares how much he is getting paid? How does that influence anything?
    It doesn't matter what he's getting paid in the NBA, whether a lottery rookie scale salary or a minimum contract. What matters is he was being paid at all. You get paid, you do your job. If you don't want to do your job, don't ask to get paid.

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    Being 'professional' doesn't mean you just do as you are told all the time... thats called being a pussy.
    Sure, you don't have to do as you are told all the time... that's called being unemployed.

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    This isn't Solomon Alabi we are talking about. This is a guy who proved he deserved to be out there every day
    Wow, such a proven player! Wait, what exactly has he proven? That 4 years after being picked 9th overall, he still hasn't improved his overall game? That he still hasn't managed to stay on the floor for at least 15 minutes on average per game? I value defense a lot, but it's no different when a player relies on his one strength, whether offense or defense, and doesn't work on the other. His previous team gave up on him, and likely the Raptors will as well. If anything, he has only proven to be a lottery bust.

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    I wish more players would have done what Wright did. I would have loved if all those guys on the bench sat there and refused to go in... send a message that what had been happening for the last 2-3 years was utter bullshit.
    Because all those guys on the bench are completely blameless? Weems sending a message about the last 2 years would be hilarious! Ajinca too? Wright is too good to go in during a blowout, but apparently Barbosa isn't? Barbosa was such a "pussy" for going back out there and doing his job!

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    The Raptors were a 22 win team. There are few players who should be brought back and JuJu isn't one of them.

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    Default Wright will be a UFA

    I think he gets a clean slate now but him coming back depends on what other options are available. He has a qualifying offer of nearly $4M so needless to say they're going to let him become a UFA (unrestricted free agent).

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