Neither Kemba or DeRozan are: Decent 3-point shooters. Need I say more here? He plays like Ford, who a lot of you hate, despite that he was well on his way to being the best PG that the team had before his injury.
Frankly, not believing in Bayless, or not being willing to take a flyer on him considering that he put up 18/7/4 and excellent efficiency when he started and then suggesting that we draft a similar player in Walker (and especially) Knight is lunacy.
I've always been of the opinion that Brandon Knight had more of an upside than Kemba, and for that reason he would be the smart pic. I must say though, I don't like his energy when being interviewed, he seems like he sulks and pouts his way through the day. I'm not so sure Toronto would warm to him..I would bet that his attitude played a role in him dropping in the draft - I didn't even like his demeanor when he was being interviewed in Toronto for the workouts..just sayin.
They'll probably be good pros, but with Knight and Kemba, it was mostly just politics.
Knight being a Calipari point guard from Kentucky, and Kemba being a NCAA champion.
They were once high on my board, but Biyombo really grew on me later on and he was probably my first pick, that is until I learned more about Valanciunas, which is now the better choice.
For once I agree with Lang.Andy in Big City:
In Toronto there is a debate of who to start at pg: Jose Calderon or Jarred Bayless If you were the coach of the Raptors, how do you divide the minutes at point guard and why?
Bayless 30 minutes. Calderon 18 minutes.
Time to see if the youngster is the poing guard of the future. Raptor nation already knows Calderon's limit.
I set the youngster loose and then sit back to see if he can hack it.
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well bayless was a lottery pick that didn't get much playing time in Portland or New orleans because of Andre miller and CP3. I think he could be a great PG, Imo he'll end up being way better than Jose. Let him start next season with like 30 MPG and he'll tear it up. He averaged 18/7 as a starter last season so i think he'll do great.
whil he's not going to average close to those numbers with a full season as starter. i'm pretty confident in that.
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I still think he's got potential, but it's not just lack of playing time that made both Portland and New Orleans give up on him. And while he's put up good stats when given minutes in Toronto, he's still got A LOT to learn about running an offense. Basic stats don't tell the whole story. Especially for a PG.
i agree. he's alright... but hasn't actually shown he can really run the team. all i got from last season was he was a "put up points on a bad team" type player and could only do that after calderon got shut down. i like him more in barbosas role. i think bc didn't take a pg (outside of the fact we got a franchise center) because none of the ones on the board seem like they'll ever be allstars, and if you're taking a player at #5 they better end up pretty fucking good, weak draft or not. i like kemba and i like knight but i'll be surprised if they ever make a allstar team much less get mentioned in the top 10 pg coversation. knight maybe, but it'll be way down the road.
this year however is where the real treasure can be had. if the raps somehow finagle another 1st round pick and take a pg to go along with whatever sf we end up with i'll be pleased as punch.
i do think though that getting a solid vet would do some good to help mentor bayless/whoever we might end up getting through the draft or whatever. i like jose and think hes a solid player and will never wish any ill will towards him when he finally gets moved but the team needs a leader at the point. calderons got the skills but i don't know about his head.
I have a feeling we're going to see a situation similar to the one we had when TJ Ford was here. The two of them (Jose and Jared) will likely split minutes almost evenly, depending on matchups, to give us changes of pace. This will be an important year for Jared and I think it will be his last chance to make enough of a name for himself that he'll be able to have a career. That's what I expect anyway, who knows what Coach Casey is thinking.
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i think all he needs is some proper training and practice. If the coaching staff can work with him on the things he needs to improve on (i.e running the offense, passing etc...) then he'll do great. He also needs to figure out how his teammates like to play and develop better chemistry with them. I have high hopes for him next season
Bayless certainly has the physical abilities and even many of the skills that fans covet, but he's still a LONG ways off from being a real PG. Most of the assists he gets are drive and dishes, not running the offense. There are several problems with this. The first is that he's not getting his assists in the flow of the offense. Unless your PG is Derrick Rose, it usually means an inefficient offense that is not diverse and prone to long draughts. It also makes it very easily defended. Calderon, for all his faults, is a very good PG.
As a long time Calderon supporter I do feel like I should point out that I was impressed by Bayless' defense as a starter the last stretch of games. I would probably start bayless and would split their minutes 27 21
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Bayless still needs to mature quite a bit before we can start calling him our starting point guard of the future. His competitiveness is one of his greatest assets but he also lets it get out of control on a somewhat regular basis. He's prone to getting sucked into glorified games of 1-on-1 against opposing point guards (aka TJ Ford Syndrome), his body language and attitude is often poor when he's subbed out of the game or not getting the minutes he feels he deserves, and he's already worn out his welcome on two playoff teams because he was reportedly unhappy with the amount of time he was receiving.
Bayless really struggled with coming off the bench last year. He'd get in the game and would be so anxious to make a play that he'd often turn it over or force up a couple of bad shots before getting the hook again. Of course, this would just make him even more upset and he'd normally follow up his first stretch of playing time with a similarly poor second crack at it. Like I said before, I think this ultimately stems from his competitiveness but at some point you have to be able to reign that in and be a pro if you want to really make an impact in this league.
There's no doubt that the kid is talented. Just take a look at his high school and college pedigree. But there's much more to being a good player in the NBA than just possessing the physical tools, especially at the PG spot. He'll get plenty of opportunities this season because his poor behavior can fall through the cracks on a lottery bound team with not much talent, but I wouldn't appoint him out point guard for the next 7 years just yet. He's got to prove something to me this year.
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