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Thread: 2012 Draft Thursday, June 28th: Raptors select Terence Ross

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'm not sure if his recent drop has much to do with the ACL. Scouts have been aware the injury for a full season, so it doesn't make sense why his stock would suddenly drop now (unless it's negatively affecting his performance in workouts).
    I beleive he had a poor performance at the combines. Didn't shoot the ball well and didn't show well in the drills. Would have done himself a favour if he stayed back another year.

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    i saw miller play last year 3 or 4 times and a couple of the times he looked fantastic but the other times he was just invisible. i think it'd actually be good for his career to get picked up at the end of the first and come along slow. ACL injuries can take a long time to really heal, if they heal completely at all. he's definitely a project at this point.
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    Default SLAM Mock Draft: Raptors Select Lillard

    With the eighth pick in the 2012 SLAMonline Mock Draft, the Toronto Raptors select…

    Damian Lillard from Weber State.

    First featured on SLAMonline in February, the Weber State PG finished his redshirt junior campaign second in the NCAA in scoring at 24.5 ppg. He’s an extremely efficient shooter, who connected on 41 percent of his attempts from the beyond the arc.

    He’s also a terrific rebounder (5 rpg) for his size and takes care of the ball well—ranking first among point guard prospects in turnovers per possession. Lillard is extremely explosive (40-inch vertical) and drives well in either direction, which helped him get to the free-throw line (where he knocked down the second most FTs in NCAA at a 90 percent clip).

    The two-time Big Sky POY says he hears the question often: “Do you think you’re a 2-guard?”

    His answer: “No,” adding that he wants to run an offense—not “just to push the ball up the floor, but run NBA sets.”


    But Lillard’s work ethic is possibly his the most impressive quality. It’s hard to get him out of the gym and was incredible shape at the Pre-Draft Combine.

    “I’m from Oakland. Gary Payton was that kind of person, really competitive,” the 6-2, 190-pound Lillard said. “Jason Kidd, Brian Shaw. I feel I have to bring that same thing to the table as an Oakland point guard. I wand to compete and I feel I still have to prove myself playing against higher lever guys and I’m happy to have the opportunity.”

    Lillard may not be a Gary Payton or Jason Kidd, but some see an athletic Chauncey Billups as a best-case NBA comparison.

    The Raptors are looking for a PG of the future. It’s clear that player is neither Calderon nor Jerryd Bayless (he missed over half the season due to injury and failed to prove much when healthy). Lillard could down hold the starting position for the next decade.

    Regardless of how his potential plays out, Lillard’s excited about the possibility of becoming Toronto’s only first-round PG selection since Mighty Mouse, tweeting, “Heard toronto is a nice place. We shall see!”
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    Quote torch19 wrote: View Post
    JV reminds me of a hybrid of Bynum and Duncan, not sure if everyone agrees with me, but he just reminds me as that. (sharp elbows when he's posting, hands always high, a bit grounded, etc)

    Leonard has the better shot I believe, but JV has the instincts. Also, JV likes contact more than Leonard. My two cents lol
    Hmmm...there is I believe one major between JV and the two....running up and down the floor...JV hands down...speed and gait. Duncan is/was much more polished offensively...its going to be a couple of years plus at least to have a better idea of the improvement curve if JV can reach/come close to those standards. Bynum is just an overpowering force inside (JV doesnt have that kind of strength/weight). JV I believe is more athletic than the other two though Duncan was great posting up, rebounding and shot blocking and very high basketball IQ. My 2cents!! I'd be happy if JV came within 75% of what Duncan could do.

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    The Blazers are competition.

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    The Blazers are competition.
    Agreed. I think that if Portland doesn't draft Lillard, he will be available @ #8.

    New Orleans - need a PG, but will draft Davis #1
    Charlotte - Kemba Walker, DJ Augustin
    Washington - John Wall
    Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
    Sacramento - Tyreke Evans, Isaiah Thomas, Jimmer Fredette
    Portland - ???
    Golden State - Stephen Curry
    Toronto -
    Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Tue Jun 12th, 2012 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Agreed. I think that if Portland doesn't draft Lillard, he will be available @ #8.

    New Orleans - need a PG, but will draft Davis #1
    Charlotte - Kemba Walker, DJ Augustin
    Washington - John Wall
    Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
    Sacramento - Tyreke Evans, Isaiah Thomas, Jimmer Fredette
    Portland - ???
    Golden State - Stephen Curry
    Toronto -
    If Drummond falls, I think Portland takes him over Lillard. Portland needs a big just as bad as a PG, and bigs are harder to get, IMO.

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    There is a good chance that Drummond may not get past Sacramento. It sounds like they are very high on him playing along side DeMarcus Cousins. They will have ridiculous size in their front court should they pair the two of them together.

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    Here's hoping that one of the top 7 takes a liking to Sullinger. If he is drafted in the top 7, that opens up options for the Raptors. Unfortunately, I think he is going to drop and a good PG or wing will be drafted in the top 7.

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    If Drummond falls, I think Portland takes him over Lillard. Portland needs a big just as bad as a PG, and bigs are harder to get, IMO.
    True. I think (and voted) for Drummond to go @ #5 to Sacramento, to form a fearsome front court with Cousins. I could very easily see the draft unfolding exactly as RR has predicted thus far (Davis, MKG, Robinson, Barnes, Drummond), with Lillard going @ #6 to Portland. However, I could also see Beal getting picked by any team at #2 onward, which would turn our draft order completely on its head, with all bets after #1 out the window!

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    Barnes having a incredible combine, apparently.
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    That can't be because Barnes = BARF

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    Barnes has a 38" standing vertical

    That's insane, man. Higher than most people with a running start.

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    Barnes has a 38" standing vertical

    That's insane, man. Higher than most people with a running start.
    Yeah, that's pretty freakin' ridiculous. I would never have guessed he has that kind of springs from watching him play last season.
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    Surprising. Another finesse player who doesn't like contact inside?

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    Talk today of MLeonard rising the charts with Portland and Detroit interested. Might force Portland to go Leonard to prevent losing to Detroit and thereby dropping Lillard....

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    I think Portland takes a center with their first pick knowing they can get Marshall with their second.

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    For quite awhile, there have been 9 players that have widely been considered consensus top-10 picks... I'd be more shocked if all the pundits were right, than I would be if there's a few surprises come draft night! I do think that at least 6 of the consensus top 9 will still get picked in the top 10, but the order after #1 is anybody's guess!

    Davis, MKG, Beal, Barnes, Robinson, Drummond, Lillard, Sullinger, PJIII

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    Standing Vertical Jump
    Five Best
    Harrison Barnes 38.0
    Damian Lillard 34.5
    Festus Ezeli 34
    Miles Plumlee 34
    Marcus Denmon 33.5
    Darius Johnson-Odom 33.5
    Arnett Moultrie 33.5
    Jeff Taylor 33.5

    Maximum Vertical Jump
    Five Best
    Darius Johnson-Odom 41.5
    Miles Plumlee 40.5
    Marquis Teague 40.5
    Jeff Taylor 40.0
    Marcus Denmon 40.0
    Tony Mitchell 40.0

    3/4 Court Sprint
    Five Best
    Harrison Barnes 3.16
    Thomas Robinson 3.17
    Michael Kidd Gilchrist 3.18
    Marcus Denmon 3.19
    Marquis Teague 3.19
    Perry Jones 3.19

    Five Worst
    Jared Sullinger 3.81
    Andrew Nicholson 3.67
    Kevin Jones 3.6
    Will Barton 3.6
    Kyle O'Quinn 3.53

    Lane Agility Drill
    Five Best
    Quincy Acy 10.48
    Jordan Taylor 10.57
    Kim English 10.59
    JaMychal Green 10.63
    Miles Plumlee 10.64

    http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...-Released-3964

    Interesting that not only does Barnes have the best no step but he also has the fastest 3/4 court sprint
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    Surprised again!...that MKG did not feature more prominently in these athletic type stats.

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