2012 Draft Thursday, June 28th: Raptors select Terence Ross

[NoPropsneeded]

Miller is slotted 16 - 20 it's not really a stretch. If he can get healthy he would be the steal of the draft

[ceez]

id rather take harkless if he was available

edit: or ross

[ReubenJRD]

id rather take harkless if he was available

But we would have to wait a fairly long time for him wouldn't we?

NoPropsNeeded: Miller is slotted 16 - 20 it's not really a stretch. If he can get healthy he would be the steal of the draft

I guess, but he could also steal from us with his ACL.

Gotta be honest, not too big on both names. I would rather take a player who will make an impact right away and improve right away. I am looking at Rivers still being on the board, Terrence Jones I am a big fan of, and Royce White. I'm starting to lose ground of Perry Jones III.

[ceez]

i don't think rivers would be on the board at that point, but if he was they'd jump on him.

[Mediumcore]

Or, why not think big, try to acquire another top 10 pick and do what Houston is doing? Or, even easier, what about Val and the 8th, plus the two second rounders and Calderon, for Howard? Why is some half-assed move for a second tier PG (I like Lowry but he's not a 10-win guy) and a mid-first rounder the best that can be imagined?

Because Houston is willing to do it without Howard signing an extension. If he gets traded to Houston and then choses not to sign with them long term they will have crippled themselves long term. Not a chance I would want Toronto (a cold weather city which Howard does not want to live in) to take.

If Toronto was going to make a play for a big time player I'd rather see them go after D. Will, but there is no chance of that happening.

[ReubenJRD]

i don't think rivers would be on the board at that point, but if he was they'd jump on him.

I really am wishing he is. Guy has the 'IT' factor. NBA game.

[ReubenJRD]

If Toronto was going to make a play for a big time player I'd rather see them go after D. Will, but there is no chance of that happening.

The big time player(s) we are going after are Steve Nash, Rudy Gay, and Andre Iguodala.

[themasao]

I'm kinda apprehensive about picking Rivers -- partly because I've never really bought the whole "his game is suited to the NBA" thing in general. Sure, maybe his ego is suited to the NBA, but that's a negative, not a positive, as far as I'm concerned. When scouts talk about 'NBA style players' it reminds me of those old school scouts in Moneyball talking about guys with a 'great body' and 'he's a 5-tool guy'. It's utterly meaningless.

Statistically, Rivers plain old SUCKED in college. Now obviously, stats aren't the whole story, and a good eye test always helps. But the fact is, the footage isn't that reassuring: he looks like an underwhelming to mediocre athlete (which most of the measurements and combines seem to confirm), he needs to dominate the ball to score (needless to say, he doesn't do so efficiently) and he struggles mightily when his shot is off.

Finally, if you play the style of ball that Rivers does, and you're his size, you damn well better hustle your ass off - or at the very least, have good stamina! Rivers seems to have neither: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLmu...feature=g-vrec

(note re: video. People have been talking about how this was at the end and he was dead tired. I don't care how tired you are -- YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE NBA, MOVE YOUR DAMN FEET!)

[themasao]

Having just torn Rivers to shreds, I do think he'd be an excusable/acceptable pick at 16. Definitely not at 8 though.

[Nilanka]

I wouldn't pick Rivers even at 16.

[themasao]

I wouldn't pick Rivers even at 16.

Oh I wouldn't either. I just wouldn't ask for BC's head on a stick.

...Or maybe I would. I suppose it would depend who was still available.

[ceez]

Personally id take Ross over Rivers at any draft spot

[planetmars]

If the Lowry trade went down, and we got #16, then I'd like to take a flyer on Q. Miller. I don't think the Raps ever worked him out, so it might be a long shot. We need a star, but at 16 we are most likely not going to get one. So I'd go for a guy who has the most potential of becoming one - and Miller seems like the guy that will have the most potential at that spot.

[ceez]

i don't know if a team that didn't work out Miller would draft him with his health red flags. i don't think, anyways.

[Chr1s1anL]

Anyone else find it weird that the raptors hadn't worked Moe Harkless?

[themasao]

If the Lowry trade went down, and we got #16, then I'd like to take a flyer on Q. Miller. I don't think the Raps ever worked him out, so it might be a long shot. We need a star, but at 16 we are most likely not going to get one. So I'd go for a guy who has the most potential of becoming one - and Miller seems like the guy that will have the most potential at that spot.

I've been a huge fan of Miller since his high school days. Honestly think the only other guy his size with those skills is Durant. That being said, the injury is a...substantial, worry. I would love to see the Raptors draft him, I just don't think BC has the balls to do it in the first round.

[ceez]

maybe view him as too much of a project for BC's win now campaign

edit: yet they worked out PJ3 yeah it is kind of weird

[Mediumcore]

If the Raptors didn't see anyone worth their while at #8 that they would prefer to trade the pick then is it possbile they might use the #16 pick in yet another trade?

[Bendit]

I notice that the PJ3 fanclub has lost some members here!

[Sig]

i notice that the pj3 fanclub has lost some members here!

Nope!