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  • #16
    Marz wrote: View Post
    What happens if there is no season? i.e. no games played. How is the draft order decided?
    That would probably be detailed within the new CBA. I think the fair thing would be to have a 30 team lottery.

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    • #17
      North Carolina's James McAdoo

      From what I read on dbadraft.net, he's the one to get!

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      • #18
        30 team lottery? **** that. The lottery is horrible as it is, I don't want more teams added to the mix.

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        • #19
          CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
          It is unclear how the draft order would be decided if there is no season, since the new CBA would determine that. They'd likely do some sort of revised lottery - it would still give preference to non-playoff teams, but shouldn't give them as much preference since they just got top draft picks once.

          To me, the bigger question is: will all these great young players actually be in the next draft? If the owners get their way and the age limit is raised, most of the listed players will become ineligible, meaning it won't be as strong a draft as the experts predict. I am already hoping for Barnes! A future lineup with Valanciunus, Davis, Barnes, DeRozan... all we need is a legit starting pass-first PG!
          That's my biggest fear. I'm a proponent of raising the draft age, but that screws the Raptors next year, so I'm torn. It's best for the league to raise the age limit, but best for the Raptors to keep it where it is. Of course if they get the first pick and Barnes ends up being the consensus best player, then it won't matter.
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          • #20
            I read one possibility of how they might do the draft (can't remember where) is to take the team records over the last 3 years and do it that way. The Raptors still wouldn't get the first pick, but I believe they'd be in the top 5, again.
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            • #21
              hopefully only a year of struggling
              ya dun noe

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              • #22
                Tim W. wrote: View Post
                I read one possibility of how they might do the draft (can't remember where) is to take the team records over the last 3 years and do it that way. The Raptors still wouldn't get the first pick, but I believe they'd be in the top 5, again.
                As I already said earlier, that's what the NHL did.

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                • #23
                  Arsenalist wrote: View Post
                  If they go the NHL route, they take the average number of wins in the last three seasons and rank them based on that.
                  Those numbers are:
                  Minnesota 24 15 17 56
                  Sacramento 17 25 24 66
                  Washington 19 26 23 68
                  New Jersey 34 12 24 70
                  LA Clipper 19 29 32 80
                  Golden State 29 26 36 91
                  Toronto 33 40 22 95
                  Detroit 39 27 30 96
                  New York 32 29 42 103
                  Indiana 36 32 37 105
                  Philadelphia 41 27 41 109
                  Memphis 24 40 46 110
                  Charlotte 35 44 34 113
                  Milwaukee 34 46 35 115
                  Oklahoma City 23 50 55 128
                  New Orleans 49 37 46 132
                  Houston 53 42 43 138
                  Phoenix 46 54 40 140
                  Utah 48 53 39 140
                  Atlanta 47 53 44 144
                  Chicago 41 41 62 144
                  Cleveland 66 61 19 146
                  Miami 43 47 58 148
                  Portland 54 50 48 152
                  Denver 54 53 50 157
                  Dallas 50 55 57 162
                  San Antonio 54 50 61 165
                  Boston 62 50 56 168
                  Orlando 59 59 52 170
                  LA Lakers 65 57 57 179
                  Last edited by steve___; Fri Jun 24, 2011, 03:24 PM. Reason: fixed width font

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                  • #24
                    steve___ wrote: View Post
                    Those numbers are:
                    Minnesota 24 15 17 56
                    Sacramento 17 25 24 66
                    Washington 19 26 23 68
                    New Jersey 34 12 24 70
                    LA Clipper 19 29 32 80
                    Golden State 29 26 36 91
                    Toronto 33 40 22 95
                    Detroit 39 27 30 96
                    New York 32 29 42 103
                    Indiana 36 32 37 105
                    Philadelphia 41 27 41 109
                    Memphis 24 40 46 110
                    Charlotte 35 44 34 113
                    Milwaukee 34 46 35 115
                    Oklahoma City 23 50 55 128
                    New Orleans 49 37 46 132
                    Houston 53 42 43 138
                    Phoenix 46 54 40 140
                    Utah 48 53 39 140
                    Atlanta 47 53 44 144
                    Chicago 41 41 62 144
                    Cleveland 66 61 19 146
                    Miami 43 47 58 148
                    Portland 54 50 48 152
                    Denver 54 53 50 157
                    Dallas 50 55 57 162
                    San Antonio 54 50 61 165
                    Boston 62 50 56 168
                    Orlando 59 59 52 170
                    LA Lakers 65 57 57 179
                    Cleveland would be screwed if this system is implemented, Miami is right after them! lol

                    Toronto would kinds be screwed too.
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                    • #25
                      i want us to improve but still be in the lottery. I hate watching this team lose even a few more wins will satisfy me.

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                      • #26
                        steve___ wrote: View Post
                        Those numbers are:
                        Minnesota 24 15 17 56
                        Sacramento 17 25 24 66
                        Washington 19 26 23 68
                        New Jersey 34 12 24 70
                        LA Clipper 19 29 32 80
                        Golden State 29 26 36 91
                        Toronto 33 40 22 95
                        Detroit 39 27 30 96
                        New York 32 29 42 103
                        Indiana 36 32 37 105
                        Philadelphia 41 27 41 109
                        Memphis 24 40 46 110
                        Charlotte 35 44 34 113
                        Milwaukee 34 46 35 115
                        Oklahoma City 23 50 55 128
                        New Orleans 49 37 46 132
                        Houston 53 42 43 138
                        Phoenix 46 54 40 140
                        Utah 48 53 39 140
                        Atlanta 47 53 44 144
                        Chicago 41 41 62 144
                        Cleveland 66 61 19 146
                        Miami 43 47 58 148
                        Portland 54 50 48 152
                        Denver 54 53 50 157
                        Dallas 50 55 57 162
                        San Antonio 54 50 61 165
                        Boston 62 50 56 168
                        Orlando 59 59 52 170
                        LA Lakers 65 57 57 179

                        I don't like this ranking, I rather hope we play next season and earn last place.

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                        • #27
                          Arsenalist wrote: View Post
                          As I already said earlier, that's what the NHL did.
                          Apparently I need to read ALL the comments before I post.
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                          • #28
                            Arsenalist wrote: View Post
                            If they go the NHL route, they take the average number of wins in the last three seasons and rank them based on that.
                            This to me seems like the fairest possible route.

                            *EDIT: I take that back, Cleveland is thrown under the bus on this one, and in a way so are we and all other teams that have made dramatic changes in the last 3 years.
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                            • #29
                              The NHL draft following the lockout was based on playoff appearances over the last three years, as well as first-overall picks. Had nothing to do with average wins. Basically, each team started with 3 balls, but lost one for every playoff appearance or first-overall selection during the previous three seasons.

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NHL_Entry_Draft

                              Here's how the same system implemented in the NBA would work:

                              1 ball: Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, Orlando, Miami, Cleveland, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Lakers, Dallas, Oklahoma, Denver, Portland, Phoenix, Utah, Memphis, New Orleans
                              2 balls: New York, Indiana, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Detroit, Washington, Houston, Clippers
                              3 balls: Toronto, New Jersey, Minnesota, Sacramento, Golden State

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                              • #30
                                octothorp wrote: View Post
                                The NHL draft following the lockout was based on playoff appearances over the last three years, as well as first-overall picks. Had nothing to do with average wins. Basically, each team started with 3 balls, but lost one for every playoff appearance or first-overall selection during the previous three seasons.

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NHL_Entry_Draft

                                Here's how the same system implemented in the NBA would work:

                                1 ball: Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, Orlando, Miami, Cleveland, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Lakers, Dallas, Oklahoma, Denver, Portland, Phoenix, Utah, Memphis, New Orleans
                                2 balls: New York, Indiana, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Detroit, Washington, Houston, Clippers
                                3 balls: Toronto, New Jersey, Minnesota, Sacramento, Golden State
                                I like this better, but wouldn't Boston, Chicago, Orlando, Miami, San Antonio, Laker, Dallas, Oklahoma, Denver and Portland get no balls, because they've made the playoffs the last three years. That makes way more sense, to me.

                                Edit: And Cleveland would get zero, as well, since they have two playoff appearances and a #1 pick.
                                Last edited by Tim W.; Fri Jun 24, 2011, 04:21 PM.
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