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Thread: 2012 Draft Thursday, June 28th: Raptors select Terence Ross

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    Quote Fanchie wrote: View Post
    If we end up drafting Barnes at #8, I will just slap myself for an hour or two to check that I'm not dreaming. I don't know what the guy will become, but considering all the hype he got for the past 4 years, this would be unbelievable.
    At first I thought you had a different kind of slapping in mind.

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    [QUOTE=torch19;137790]Rumour has it that Dion Waiters is being strongly considered by Cleveland with the 4th overall selection.

    ... Someone tell me HOW SOMEONE WHO DID NOT WORK OUT FOR ANY TEAM, WHO DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN MEASUREMENTS IN THE COMBINE, see his stock rise as much as him?

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    I do not think he really did rise on NBA team's boards. The Raptors said since the combine that he was on their list. I think he has risen on media blogs based on information leaking from teams.

    On second thought maybe Bryan Colangelo is just the king of smoke.
    Last edited by jcly; Thu Jun 28th, 2012 at 09:26 AM. Reason: add a second thought

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    Cleveland is considering taking Waiter as well. If this is true, then there is a chance that Barnes or even MKG just might drop to 8. This would be great if the draft goes as expected:

    New Orleans: Anthony Davis
    Charlotte: Thomas Robinson
    Washington: Bradley Beal
    Cleveland: Dion Waiter
    Sacramento: Andre Drummond
    Portland: Damian Lillard
    Golden State: MKG/Barnes
    Toronto: Barnes/MKG

    That would be so awesome!!!!!

    Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...With_No_4_Pick

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    Quote Profster wrote: View Post
    I'm sure Toronto have spoken to Coach K. If he was negative about Rivers they would know!
    Unless the player was an absolute moron college coaches would rarely diss their grads. From an earlier post quoting coach K he was being rather obtuse when he was alluding to Rivers personality (he is going to be great/alpha dog) and goes on to say that he would rather have such a player (duh) than one who doesnt believe in himself (double duh). Like is there no middle ground here? Does Lillard who does not possess the overt "cockiness" of Rivers is someone who doesnt believe in himself? Bayless has this streak too but unfortunately does not have the game to back it up.

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    Analysis: Fournier is the type of player the Thunder easily could stash for a year or two in Europe. Or, given the high level he has played at in France, he might be able to come in and get minutes for them right away -- especially if the Thunder decide they can't afford to re-sign James Harden this summer.

    Trade Scenarios: Thunder are exploring getting to the No. 2 or 3 pick to select Bradley Beal. They are also open to moving out of the draft altogether.

    Thunder Big Board:
    1. Evan Fournier
    2. Kostas Papanikolaou
    3. Furkan Aldemir
    If Ford is right about the Thunder considering moving out of the draft, and if Quincy Miller is still available at 28 (as he is in Mock 10.0) what do you think it would take for the Raptors to sneak in here and snag him? Future lottery protected first rounder? Alabi? If BC can get Miller in the 28th slot (which has a very small cap hit) without compromising any flexibility, I think he'll have to think reeeal hard bout pulling the trigger.

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    [QUOTE=jcly;137848][QUOTE=torch19;137790]Rumour has it that Dion Waiters is being strongly considered by Cleveland with the 4th overall selection.

    ... Someone tell me HOW SOMEONE WHO DID NOT WORK OUT FOR ANY TEAM, WHO DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN MEASUREMENTS IN THE COMBINE, see his stock rise as much as him?


    I do not think he really did rise on NBA team's boards. The Raptors said since the combine that he was on their list. I think he has risen on media blogs based on information leaking from teams.

    On second thought maybe Bryan Colangelo is just the king of smoke.
    I dont think there was ever an overt statement from the Raptors about Waiters being "on their list". This was mostly coming from the punditry and mock drafts. The closest was Colangelo (in response to the promise made to Waiters speculation) said that "he was in the mix regardless". This would be the prudent thing to say the way I see it...nothing else. I as well am somewhat puzzled by Waiters sizable bandwagon.

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    I have a feeling it's all hype and he'll be there at 8 and Toronto won't pick him either.

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    Quote AlienOverlord wrote: View Post
    I have a feeling it's all hype and he'll be there at 8 and Toronto won't pick him either.
    Well we do need a starting SD and BC knows it. I don't think he's that stupid

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    Quote Blacklash2k4 wrote: View Post
    Well we do need a starting SD and BC knows it. I don't think he's that stupid
    SF... Stupid autocorrect...

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    Quote themasao wrote: View Post
    If Ford is right about the Thunder considering moving out of the draft, and if Quincy Miller is still available at 28 (as he is in Mock 10.0) what do you think it would take for the Raptors to sneak in here and snag him? Future lottery protected first rounder? Alabi? If BC can get Miller in the 28th slot (which has a very small cap hit) without compromising any flexibility, I think he'll have to think reeeal hard bout pulling the trigger.
    My guess would be a 2nd round pick and cash.

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    Quote KingMaxwell47 wrote: View Post
    So Chad Ford just dropped Mock Draft 10.0 at 3 A.M. for some reason.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...aft-version-10

    Here's how picks 1-7 play out:

    Anthony Davis
    Thomas Robinson
    Bradley Beal
    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
    Andre Drummond (!)
    Damian Lillard
    Dion Waiters

    And with the 8th pick in the 2012 draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

    Harrison Barnes! From the University of North Carolina

    Here's what Ford had to say:



    I think a lot of people would be pleased if the draft turned out this way.
    Barring trades, I think Cleveland at #4 and Sacramento at #5 will be the keys to how the rest of the top-8 unfolds. I have felt like the top-3 would be Davis/Robinson/Beal for quite awhile, but Cleveland seems to change week to week, with Barnes, MKG and now Waiters all being 'their guy'. Sacramento would very likely target a SF (ie: Barnes/MKG) or Drummond (Lillard comes into play if they trade Evans). Then I think Portland is set on Lillard and GS seems set on Waiters (if he's available).

    One of Drummond, Waiters, Barnes, MKG or Lillard will be available for the Raptors at #8.... 2 of those guys would make just about all Raps fans happy, 2 would make a majority of Raps fans happy, while Drummond would likely become instant trade bait!

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    Sometimes all these good teams want is a high second round pick (like our 37) for their low first, because first rounders are a guaranteed contract that they don't want without seeing if he really works in their system.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    My guess would be a 2nd round pick and cash.
    Right after I posted it I realized any future 1st rounder would be too much. Chances any future 1st rounder of ours is in the high 20's? Pretttty unlikely.

    Anyways, I suppose we wouldn't need both 37 and 56 if we had two 1st rounders.

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    David Aldridge is reporting that Charlotte has 5 "legit" offers to trade the second pick in tonights draft. I wonder if any of those 5 are from Toronto? Are the 12th, 16th and 18th picks from Houston enough to get the second from Charlotte? It could help Charlotte completely revamp their roster and get a bunch of quality guys in to fill a bunch of their needs.

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    Quote omgsomuchpotential wrote: View Post
    Please no. I think Waiters climbing up the lottery is a pretty good thing for Raptors after Sullinger was red-flagged. This would almost for sure mean Lillard is ours for taking.
    Not true at all. I say there's maybe a 20% chance Portland doesn't draft lillard under any circumstances. I see the most likely scenario is raptors take Drummond and use him as trade bait

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    Quote Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    David Aldridge is reporting that Charlotte has 5 "legit" offers to trade the second pick in tonights draft. I wonder if any of those 5 are from Toronto? Are the 12th, 16th and 18th picks from Houston enough to get the second from Charlotte? It could help Charlotte completely revamp their roster and get a bunch of quality guys in to fill a bunch of their needs.
    Interesting. I wonder if the second pick plus whatever players (Kyle Lowry and filler or something) is enough to pry D. Howard away from Orlando. If I'm Orlando, I'd probably bite.

    It's tough to get the second pick in a good draft, even for a guy like Howard.

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    Quote Blacklash2k4 wrote: View Post
    SF... Stupid autocorrect...
    Isn't Waiters projected to be a SG in the NBA?

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    The more time passes with nothing happening, the more I'm starting to think this day will feel a lot of last year's trade deadline. A whole lot of hype, and nothing of substance.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    There's only 1 minor problem with this strategy though....Waiters sucks balls.

    Oh, and he's fat.
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    I'd be royally annoyed if that was the case.

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