The draft is stacked next year lets get the tanking started lol
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For those who are hoping for another top-5 selection next year, it really isn't likely to happen again.
I would argue that even if the raps hit the floor with the exact same personnel next year (which they won't) they'll improve by 5-8 wins due to internal development, and the coaching change.
While I think obtaining another top-5 lottery selection would be great, especially in a draft with as much talent as next year's projects to have, I really think if our current squad can't improve by at least 5 or more wins from last year, we're in some trouble.
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AJ360 wrote: View PostFor those who are hoping for another top-5 selection next year, it really isn't likely to happen again.
I would argue that even if the raps hit the floor with the exact same personnel next year (which they won't) they'll improve by 5-8 wins due to internal development, and the coaching change.
While I think obtaining another top-5 lottery selection would be great, especially in a draft with as much talent as next year's projects to have, I really think if our current squad can't improve by at least 5 or more wins from last year, we're in some trouble.
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AJ360 wrote: View PostFor those who are hoping for another top-5 selection next year, it really isn't likely to happen again.
I would argue that even if the raps hit the floor with the exact same personnel next year (which they won't) they'll improve by 5-8 wins due to internal development, and the coaching change.
While I think obtaining another top-5 lottery selection would be great, especially in a draft with as much talent as next year's projects to have, I really think if our current squad can't improve by at least 5 or more wins from last year, we're in some trouble.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostYou have to realize that a lot of other teams, including Cleveland, New Jersey, Minnesota, Sacramento and Washington, will all probably improve, too. This isn't in a vacuum.
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Based on current rosters (pre-free agency) Charlotte will have the worst record ... Cleveland won't be too far behind.
-I think Minnesota and Sacramento will rise above us slightly, while Washington will stay roughly on par for development.
That leaves us in the 3-6 range, with a chance to rock out at the lottery - but let's develop this season!The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to the gun show... and see if she likes the goods.
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What is with this new found acceptance of failure? Exactly when did Tanking become anything but a mark of shame?
It has to be this idea that being the worst EARNS you the right to future assets.
This is what's wrong with this draft ordering.
An organization and fanbase that accept failure is clearly high on FA lists of places to go.
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Papa Burgundy wrote: View PostBased on current rosters (pre-free agency) Charlotte will have the worst record ... Cleveland won't be too far behind.
-I think Minnesota and Sacramento will rise above us slightly, while Washington will stay roughly on par for development.
That leaves us in the 3-6 range, with a chance to rock out at the lottery - but let's develop this season!
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Raptor Jesus wrote: View PostWhat is with this new found acceptance of failure? Exactly when did Tanking become anything but a mark of shame?
It has to be this idea that being the worst EARNS you the right to future assets.
This is what's wrong with this draft ordering.
An organization and fanbase that accept failure is clearly high on FA lists of places to go.
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People often site the 2000's Pistons as an example of why you don't need a franchise player to win (championships). They are the exception. Everyone else who has won titles in the last generation, has had elite talent (1 or 2 players, at least). We are not going to win a title unless we hit a home run in the draft. That usually only happens after a poor season. We want to lose now, so we can win later. It is not an "acceptance of failure." It is a temporary acceptance of failure.
Winning 40 games and losing in the first round of the playoffs should also be viewed as failure. Let's set the bar a little higher. Unfortunately you don't go from 20 to 50 wins overnight.Last edited by Donnie Brasco; Sun Jun 26, 2011, 02:42 AM.
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RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View PostHow? They had the best draft out of all the teams and I'm positive MJ (Cho) is going to be active in free agency. Biscmack + Kemba + whatever's left > last place
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We got screwed in this year's draft position. Even if we win some more games and move up some spots in the standings, hopefully things will average out in the lottery and we will move up draft positions instead of falling.Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
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Raptor Jesus wrote: View PostWhat is with this new found acceptance of failure? Exactly when did Tanking become anything but a mark of shame?
It has to be this idea that being the worst EARNS you the right to future assets.
This is what's wrong with this draft ordering.
An organization and fanbase that accept failure is clearly high on FA lists of places to go.
Bargnani's 2nd year...on the bench.... team is ok.
Bargnani's 3rd year... starter.... tanking becomes an option.
Bargnani's 4th year... starter.... should have tanked instead.
Bargnani's 5th year.....starter..... tanking here we come.
Bargnani's 6th year... expected starter....team must tank.
So why the acceptance of failure now? See above.Last edited by GarbageTime; Sun Jun 26, 2011, 08:11 AM.
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