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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Well he came to the NBA when he was like 25 I think, but Russia certainly did hold him back for a few years.

    But ya, he was a mobile, athletic 7 footer, not unlike Jonas. The NBA never even got the best Sabonis there was. His entire NBA career was post-Achilles injury, which pretty much hampered him the rest of the way.

    I imagine people were on him to put on some weight as well in his early days. Perhaps with the injury, he put too much on, and from there, never got his step back. Regardless, he was as dominant a center the international game has ever seen, and it translated fantastically to the NBA level. And in article on FIBA.com, the author goes on to say that Jonas is the most Dominant Center FIBA has ever seen, since Age-Specific tournaments began. Thats quite the praise.
    Actually, he was almost 31 the first time he played in the NBA. Yet he still managed to average 12 ppg and 7 rpg over the next 7 years, including a best of 16 ppg, 10 rpg, 3 apg and a block a game. That would make him the best center ever for the Raptors.
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    He seems to have a cross of the physical, iq and intangibles of Bogut & Chandler.

    Biedrins is terrible at the foul line & Jonas has much better posture on his jump shot compared to Noah.


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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Actually, he was almost 31 the first time he played in the NBA. Yet he still managed to average 12 ppg and 7 rpg over the next 7 years, including a best of 16 ppg, 10 rpg, 3 apg and a block a game. That would make him the best center ever for the Raptors.
    Interesting comparison, especially since Jonas has said that he is a fan of Sabonis' game.
    If those numbers would make him the best center, then let me go on record in saying that we have just drafted the best Center in Raptor history (barring serious injury).
    Last edited by BC Boy; Sat Jul 9th, 2011 at 04:49 PM.

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    I think these comparisons are all nice and whatnot, but it feels like it's being understated that the raptors have, what is looking like, an almost undeniably fantastic PROSPECT.

    Right now, against his age group, he is incredible. And to think that we have the rights to someone with such potential is really really exciting.

    If Kanter was the #3 pick based a lot on his hoops summit performance, how is Jonas dominating his age group not better?

    I could easily be sipping on the sweet lockout kool-aid, but with every dominating game, and what seems to be a lack of progress in the labor deal, I'd think that if they were to do this draft tomorrow, there would be a lot of hype for JV as the #1 pick.

    Here's hoping he blossoms into Dwight Howard and then some. And if not, we will always have the u19s!!!

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    Valanciunas looks like and reminds me of another NBA first round pick, Eric Montross. He won a NCAA championship with North Carolina in 1993 and had a brief cup of coffee with the Raptors but I don't think he played a game.
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    Valanciunas looks like and reminds me of another NBA first round pick, Eric Montross. He won a NCAA championship with North Carolina in 1995 and had a brief cup of coffee with the Raptors but I don't think he played a game.
    Sorry, but that's an awful comparison. Other than them being white and tall, there really is nothing in common. Montross was stiff and robotic, but strong. He wasn't agile or athletic, at all, and he didn't have good hands. Valanciunas has the agility of a small forward, is a very fluid athlete and has good hands.

    What on earth do you think they have in common?
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    Hoopshype has Jonas compared with Nenad Krstic. Still like the Noah comparison best.

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    Hoopshype has Jonas compared with Nenad Krstic. Still like the Noah comparison best.
    What is it with some of these comparisons? Krstic? Have they actually watched Valanciunas? Is it because they're both European? Krstic has never been known for his defense, but has always been a pretty decent offensive player. Does that sound Like Valanciunas?
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    What is it with some of these comparisons? Krstic? Have they actually watched Valanciunas? Is it because they're both European? Krstic has never been known for his defense, but has always been a pretty decent offensive player. Does that sound Like Valanciunas?
    I agree, it's a bad comparison... however, the one that sends chills up my spine is the primo brezec one.

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    im just relieved hes nothing like andrea

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    Quote BC Boy wrote: View Post
    I agree, it's a bad comparison... however, the one that sends chills up my spine is the primo brezec one.
    ya, i swear nbadraft.net compares them entirely based on looks

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    im just relieved hes nothing like andrea
    Why would that even be a question?
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    Quote HuskyRaptor wrote: View Post
    ya, i swear nbadraft.net compares them entirely based on looks
    That makes a lot more sense.

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    Valanciunas is the next cp3?


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    Nice video. JVs got handles!!

    That one dunk under the basket was something fierce!
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    My hope is that he attacks the rim off the pick n' rool like Amare. I think his athleticism will seperate him from any comparisons to Bogut, Vlade, Ilsgauskas etc.. that have been mentioned on this thread. I've only seen limited hilights of him, but he doesn't look like a great low post scorer so much as a guy that gets his points off hustle and put backs. So I'd compare him to a hybrid of Amare and Noah.

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    Quote DG88 wrote: View Post
    He's waaay ahead of Biedrins and Noah offensively. I still say he's a Tyson Chandler with way better offense imo.
    Hmm.. let's see:

    Valanciunas: 0 mins, 0.0 pts, 0.0 reb, 0.0 ast, 0.0 stl, 0.0 blk
    Biedrins: 24 mins, 7.7 pts, 8.0 reb, 1.1 ast, 0.7 stl, 1.2 blk
    Noah: 26 mins, 8.5 pts, 10.4 reb, 1.6 ast, 0.7 stl, 1.3 blk

    Yup, definitely waaay ahead.

    Valanciunas: 0 mins, 0.0 pts, 0.0 reb, 0.0 ast, 0.0 stl, 0.0 blk
    Chandler: 28 mins, 8.3 pts, 8.8 reb, 0.8 ast, 0.5 stl, 1.3 blk

    Right on par with Chandler, for sure. He's certainly beasting it up offensively.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    What is it with some of these comparisons? Krstic? Have they actually watched Valanciunas? Is it because they're both European? Krstic has never been known for his defense, but has always been a pretty decent offensive player. Does that sound Like Valanciunas?
    I can say the same thing with some of the comparisons I heard. Dwight? Chandler? Not even close. Sabonis? Pau? I can only imagine people haven't seen these guys play.

    I thinner Noah I could see (if you exclude the passing ability Noah has). Biendrins who can hit foul shots is probably a good one though.

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    Quote DG88 wrote: View Post
    He's waaay ahead of Biedrins and Noah offensively. I still say he's a Tyson Chandler with way better offense imo.
    Hopefully he's like Tyson Chandler playing next to CP3 and J. Kidd, and not the Tyson Chandler that played for Chicago or Charlotte 'cause last I checked we don't have a hall of fame point guard on the roster.

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    Default Yao Ming?

    How about the guy who just retired, Yao Ming? Obviously hes not as tall as Yao .. but they have similar touch from the FT and mid range. Needless to say, we would be thrilled if he gets even close to Ming (and stays healthy) .. but I do see the comparisons.

    Jonas - more active / athletic (not many guys hes more athletic than, but Yao would be one!), whereas Ming taller and bigger base (which are obviously two HUGE advantages Yao has vs JV in terms of playing the NBA game.

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