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  • #31
    Brandon wrote: View Post
    The improvement in bucket of crap's rookie season may have had something to do with A) huge improvement by Calderon in soph season, B) additions of new players like Nesterovic, TJ Fraud, and Anthony Porker. Bucket of crap spent the season playing back-end-of-the-rotation minutes, and so likely didn't have much impact.
    Ok, so you didn't watch much that season then.
    Because he clearly did. And receiving the Second Most votes for ROY proves that.
    Also, I didn't say he was the sole reason for their success. But he was, and is, deserving of a large amount of the credit for our best season ever.

    25 minutes a game is 'Back of the rotation minutes'... Really? Fascinating.

    And for the record, a rookie averaging 12pts, 4rpg and a block is pretty solid.
    Aldridge put up 9pts, 5rpg and a block. Not much difference.

    We may not fully appreciate these numbers now, but for ANY rookie, these are solid numbers.

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    • #32
      I just watch the games and call my own judgments objective proof. I don't check my stats before I argue.

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      • #33
        Brandon wrote: View Post
        I just watch the games and call my own judgments objective proof. I don't check my stats before I argue.
        That's quite an interesting position you have there. Have you notified Websters so they can change the definitions of subjective and objective? In the old definitions objective had something to do with the possibility for verification. They need to change that asap!

        If you consider your own judgments objective and do no think the use of stats (or probably other facts which do not belong to your own observations) has any place in the arguments you make or react to, I suppose that leaves little room for debate. So, what do you expect from posting on a forum. Are the others supposed to agree with you? Are you just picking fights? Apparently you are not here to debate and perhaps change your own opinion because of good arguments made by others. So I really don't get it; you use degrading namecalling like 'bucket of crap' for Bargnani and 'Anthony Porker', are you just trying to outscream us so we will bow down and submit to your judgements?

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        • #34
          Brandon wrote: View Post
          I just watch the games and call my own judgments objective proof. I don't check my stats before I argue.
          That explains ALOT actually.
          And in that case, I will likely block you.

          Here I was thinking that you were actually interested in discussing, and debating, the issue.
          But clearly you are only here to throw out random thoughts and see what kind of reaction you can get.
          I don't generally like talking with people like you.

          I prefer to have intelligent, educated debates, with which arguments can be backed up with more than, "I say so."

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          • #35
            Soft Euro wrote: View Post
            That's quite an interesting position you have there. Have you notified Websters so they can change the definitions of subjective and objective? In the old definitions objective had something to do with the possibility for verification. They need to change that asap!

            If you consider your own judgments objective and do no think the use of stats (or probably other facts which do not belong to your own observations) has any place in the arguments you make or react to, I suppose that leaves little room for debate. So, what do you expect from posting on a forum. Are the others supposed to agree with you? Are you just picking fights? Apparently you are not here to debate and perhaps change your own opinion because of good arguments made by others. So I really don't get it; you use degrading namecalling like 'bucket of crap' for Bargnani and 'Anthony Porker', are you just trying to outscream us so we will bow down and submit to your judgements?
            Speaking of Webster's, check the definition of "Irony".

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            • #36
              joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
              That explains ALOT actually.
              And in that case, I will likely block you.

              Here I was thinking that you were actually interested in discussing, and debating, the issue.
              But clearly you are only here to throw out random thoughts and see what kind of reaction you can get.
              I don't generally like talking with people like you.

              I prefer to have intelligent, educated debates, with which arguments can be backed up with more than, "I say so."
              ya this guys getting pretty annoying i think i'll block him too.

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              • #37
                I think we can all agree that Alex Anthopoulos would make a great GM for the Raps. =)

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                • #38
                  Pritchard a bad idea, Linsey a good idea?

                  Stop:
                  Pritchard's time in Portland wasn't the longest but it was quite successful, as he laid down the building blocks to transform a perennial loser into one of the most talked about up-and-coming teams in the NBA.

                  The young core of LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Roy and Nicolas Batum has Pritchard's fingerprints all over it, so it's clear that he's very capable of building a winner. And out of all the other lead candidates for the Raptors job, he'll probably be considered the frontrunner because he's more of a known commodity than the others; even though some of them have more experience.

                  With that in mind, Pritchard's arrival would be pretty exciting for Raptors fans. After all, he would be a young, vibrant GM eager to prove himself again and turn the franchise's fortunes around. However, that is exactly why a Pritchard hire would be problematic.

                  Toronto already hired a GM much like Pritchard back in 2006 in Bryan Colangelo, and even though he's decided to step away from the GM role and just act as president of the team, his DNA is still all over the franchise -- something that may not mesh well with Pritchard.

                  Both Pritchard and Colangelo are control freaks with strong personalities. If he were to come into the Raptor-fold the two would likely butt heads with each other. And while healthy debate and input on how to improve the team is generally a good thing, constant disagreement is something a franchise doesn't want to deal with.

                  It has been reported in the past that the reason for Pritchard's departure from Portland was because he hungered for both power and media adoration. These are two things he isn't likely to receive as much in Toronto, as long as Colangelo stays above him in the franchise hierarchy.
                  Go:
                  Colangelo won't find that perfect sync if he hires Pritchard, but he may just find it in Lindsey.

                  As the current assistant GM of the San Antonio Spurs, Lindsey would bring some championship knowledge to the front office and seeing how the Spurs have made a living off picking exceptional players later in the draft, his talent evaluation skills will work wonders for a team likely headed to the lottery.

                  A Lindsey selection would also make sense, as he'll work well with Colangelo because of the emphasis that the Spurs have made on scouting international players -- something the Toronto boss has been known for.

                  Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, the reason why Lindsey should be the prime candidate is because Colangelo will still be able to go hands-on with the team because Lindsey would be a rookie GM, making him more easily controlled, which would allow Colangelo to still execute his vision for the club.

                  Lindsey may not be the sexiest pick, but he seems like the right one. If the club decides instead to go with Prtichard, however, it will be very interesting to see how he and Colangelo work with each other.
                  Source: Miamiherlad.com

                  This article makes a lot of sense.

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                  • #39
                    That is certainly something to consider.

                    Something I only thought of reading this bit was the dysfunction that is MLSE. Having a guy like Pritchard (i.e. with his history of egomania and back-room office politicking) may not be in the best interest of the franchise given his tenure in Portland. The drama that surrounded BC's extension would be an open invitation to someone looking to stoke the fires of malcontent among the members of the board (read: Teachers reps).

                    I honestly do not know much about Lindsey except he turned down MIN and PHX and is well regarded in SA. I wonder if it was because both franchises offered a contract and situation less desirable than the one currently held in SA (especially the money part). Being a member of the Spurs front office is certainly a good experience but it does not necessarily mean success on his own or working in another organization.

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                    • #40
                      Apollo wrote: View Post
                      I don't think that's it at all. I think the whole point of this is to free up more time. Right now Colangelo is doing two highly demanding executive jobs. I think the new GM will be given a directive and he will then go to work while always answering to Colangelo before anything is triggered. I feel Colangelo will still have a very strong voice and final say but I feel this move is meant to A.) reduce workload and B.) distance publicly distance himself from "front line" decision making and perhaps increase longevity in the organization.
                      I think that Colangelo has said publicly that the intention is not to give up his final say, but rather assemble a more experienced team to help the organization make better choices.

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