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    So I wrote a large peice on Jose that I chose not to save and then proceeded to lose (what use did I have for 4 hours of my life anyways). So instead of re-writing it, and inspired by some recent discussion on him, I decided to take the easy way out, and his name is Solomon Alabi

    The Facts

    Age 23
    Height 7'1"
    Weight 251lbs

    G 22 GS 16 Min 18.6 Pts 7.2 Rbs 5.3 FG% 51.7 FT% 71.4 Ast 0.4 Turn 1.2 Stl 0.5 Blk 1.8

    Blk% 7.8 Reb% 17.1

    Not to bad huh. Here I thought he was not that useful. Stats don't lie! On the brink of defensive 1st team......

    then reality sets in

    G 12 GS 0 Min 5 Pts 0.5 Rbs 1.2 FG% 20.0 Ft% 0 Ast 0.2 Turn 0.3 Stl 0.2 Blk 0.2

    Per 2.04 WP -0.3 Reb% 14.1 TS% 0.189

    The Opinion

    Alabi was actually as close to useless as a player comes last year. Only played in 12 games and all garbage minutes. His statistics, in that limited time, were absolutely atrocious. The good news is its almost impossible for it to get an worse (right?). Actually there is more good news (well maybe I should rephrase that to not bad news) than that. He was drafted 50th overall as raw player with very low short term expectations but long term hope. While it would have been nice to see a little more, what he did should not have been to far below what was expected.

    Weakness

    Everything - I don't think there is a single reason to break down everything in the game of basketball and explain why he was bad at it. Even if one believes he wasn't bad at everything, it was close enough. The dude sucked... you know it and I know it.

    Concerns

    Knees - Alabi apparently had some knee problems. Much like Ed they don't seem serious or long term, but I would be remissed if I didn't include the same thing I did for Ed. Big men and knee problems are like peanuts and bubble gum, you just don't want them together.

    Strengths

    You can't teach height - and Alabi has got it. 7'1" and 250lbs is legit C height and size. Can't complain about that.

    Risk vs Reward - Alabi was drafted very low, at worst takes up a roster spot at the end of the bench (which every team has and is bound to have), and has a very cheap salary (tops out at less than 900k through the 2012/13 season). When you value that against he's young, has lots of room to grow, has some potential and has legit size, its an almost can't lose situation for the Raps

    Optimism

    Hard Worker - I honestly can't speak to this much but it SEEMS as if Alabi is working hard to improve and doesn't complain. So I'll just throw that out there but don't quote me on it. It could just be that no one cares enough to waste the ink talking about it, but from the limited articles I've read on him its promising

    Comparisons

    Top End - Jermaine O'neal meets Serge Ibaka. Why the two you ask, well I can picture Alabi's career having parallels to both. If all things go great I can see him pulling a Serge. That is playing his rookie year in the d-league, showing improvement, getting some limited but growing minutes off the bench and then becoming a starter. But I don't see him as a good comparison to Serge as a player. Serge is more mobility, athleticism, speed, agility and energy. I see a closer top end comparison to O'Neal as a player. A legit C, not slow but not exactly fast either. Plays alot of the game closer to the bucket but can hit a jumper and a top notch shot blocker. I highly doubt he can reach a ' JO ceiling', but the reality is we saw so little and know so little about him as a player, why not.

    Bottom End - Yogi Stewart. For the most part Yogi was useless... but he did have 1 decent season and he got paid for it. While I can't help but put Alabi's bottom as a could/should be out of the league player, my cynicism can't help but picturing a terrible scenario. Alabi getting some minutes due to injury, plays well in that game, strings together a bunch of decent to good games and then BC signing him to a 5 year 5 mil per year contract. Alabi then proceeds to prove his uselessness and he sits at the end of the bench eating up cap space.

    Realistic Comparison - Kwame Brown. I do think if things go reasonably well Alabi could be in this area. That is a serviceable player, can play some D, isn't going to do alot but can fill a back up role and maybe a starter in a pinch. Kwame's claim to fame comes as one of the biggest busts in history, and while I don't want to confuse people into thinking I believe he is a good player, I think he isn't necessarily "that bad". If Kwame was drafted closer to where Alabi was (50th), people would probably view him as a solid pick. That said I hope to god we never see this from Alabi:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxCcC8oHjWc

    Conclusion

    There have been more than a few promising articles regarding Alabi over the last month or so (http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...et-a-FA-center and http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...n-Joel-Anthony). Which is absolutely great. Unlike other players who a team can't afford to have underplay their salary or to not meet their expectations, Alabi is a can't lose player. If he doesn't do anything who cares? He can play in the D-league in hopes he improves, he can sit at the end of the bench in hopes he learns, and if he doesn't the team hasn't lost much. He's not taking up much salary, he isn't eating away playing time for others and the Raps aren't in a position where they need alot of insurance anyways (ie. contending). On the flip side if he can do something close to what he did in the D-league in the NBA (see the first set of stats above... yeah I didn't make those up), the Raps got a steal in the draft and useful player (and center at that.) If he can do more and be a starting C, and top notch defensive player. Damn! How nice would it be for the Raps to finally have grabbed a talented 2nd round player? Its all a matter of him not getting a pay day and regular playing time until he proves he can contribute consistently. Otherwise the Raps can't go wrong.
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    Good stuff, I can sympathize with your loss of data, I also did an indepth salary analysis of calderon (like the ones i did on AMIR and BARGS) only to to lose my draft copy and not be bothered to rewrite.
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    I think it's a good idea to at least look at what we can get out of him. All the contending teams have great height in the frontcourt except for Miami (and even though getting quality length is very hard, getting 2 future hall of famers and a perennial all-star is not that easy either).

    Of course Alabi needs to develop considerably to be a starter on a contending team, but if he does and our other frontcourt players do as well, we will be contending in 3 to 4 years from now and out of the first round in 2013/2014(!) Lots of ifs here of course.

    I don’t really like the comparison with Kwame Brown. Alabi has a much higher standing reach (9’5’’ versus 9’0’’), Brown has pretty small hands which holds considerably limits his offensive game and probably his rebounding as well. On the other side, Alabi isn’t nearly as agile and athletic as Brown. They are two completely different players.

    So I looked at the Predraft measurements and threw them in Excel to see who most resembles Alabi physically.

    He most resembles famous players like Borchardt, Schenscher and Reiner (why the German names?), followed by Papadopoulos, Chan and Klotz (another!) and N’diaye. But of the more well-known players here are a few comparisons:

    Solomon Alabi
    Height: w/o shoes 6’ 11.5”; Weight: 237; Wingspan: 7’5”; No Step Vert: 22.5; Lane Agility: 13.20; Court Sprint: 3.8

    Jarron Collins
    Height: w/o shoes 6’ 9.25”; Weight: 252; Wingspan: 7’3”; No Step Vert: 23; Lane Agility: 11.65; Court Sprint: 3.60

    Cole Aldrich
    Height: w/o shoes 6’ 9”; Weight: 236; Wingspan: 7’4.75”; No Step Vert: 23; Lane Agility: 11.48; Court Sprint: 3.35

    Patrick O’Bryant!
    Height: w/o shoes 6’ 11”; Weight: 249; Wingspan: 7’5.75”; No Step Vert: 26.5; Lane Agility: 12.02; Court Sprint: 3.63

    I just looked at the total difference in percentages at all of these categories; might be not the best method.

    Agility is concerning btw.

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    interesting comparisons, hopefully alabi has improved enough to be a bad starter on a bad team next year and a descent role player for the year after!
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    I'm not sure comparing Alabi's potential to Cole Aldritch makes any sense as he is also a rookie.

    I'd also think (hope) POB would fit into the low end comparison. Working at McDonalds is about as far from being an NBA player as it gets.

    Either Collins brother work (situational starter, rare minutes, end of the bench guys) as a realistic comparison.... really not that far off of what Kwame is though.

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    i'd like to see him become a great defensive stopper. If he works his ass off, then i think he could get significant minutes and help us in the paint with his shot blocking ability.

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    Put me in the camp that still seriously doubts Alabi.

    It's encouraging to read some of the reports about his development and the high hopes that the coaching staff has for him next season, but I'm going to see some on-court evidence before I waver in my opinion. The man was DREADFULLY bad last season.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, the type of jump that it would take to get from where he was last season (couldn't even get on the court during blowouts for a 22 win team, 7 pts, 5 reb in the NBDL), to where some people are predicting for him in the upcoming year (possible starter, 20-30 MPG) would be almost unprecedented.

    I would have loved to see him dominate during his 22 games in the D-League last year, but there were rumblings about him feeling sorry for himself instead. That's the other part of all these stories that don't quite add up for me. If he is as hungry as I keep hearing then I would have expected him to tear things up down there, not sulk that he got dropped down from the Big Show. Someone who feels like the D-League is below him, but would rather sit on the bench in the NBA for games at a time and never play doesn't exactly match up with the picture that's being painted.

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