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    Can JV do these things?

    1. Can he shoot and very easy, natural jump shot? A good measurement of a ballers skills is the most simple, can JV shoot?

    2. Can he put the ball on the floor with both hands effectively and get to the basket?

    3. Can he Pass the ball effectively?

    This is your basic triple threat scenario... if you think he has it, then he can be a star, if not, he won't be. Going off what I see, I am not always convinced he can shoot, nor can he put the ball on the floor. He can pass a bit.


    4. Can he guard a guy, straight up, one on one and not look like a mechanical nightmare?
    5. Can he seamlessly play help defence?
    6. Doe she have quick lateral movement?

    These are all keys to being able to make a difference on defence for a big guy. Big guys are all big. Most jump the same, the guy that block shots can move seamlessly, and are quick, meaning they can get off the ground fast, which means they can wait a guy out, make him commit to a shot, THEN leap to send that shit out.

    7. Is he offensively calm and aware?
    8. Is he defensively calm and aware?

    The last two are key, and i mean HUGE. Does the guy have any brains? I mean we see him roll, is he rolling cuz he thinks he should, and is a hard worked, or is he seeing a great moment to roll instead of pop. Effort is awesome, people freak out for so called "motors", but Brian Scalabrine has the biggest motor around.... so take what ya want from that.

    Listen I like Jonas, I want him to be awesome, fuck, he's on my fav team. But realistically, I don't see a lot of "yes" answers above me at this point. There are no imaginary "regressions" (fuck i HATE that term when used on messageboards...good god stop pretending you see "regressions"). There is simply no progression, or, the talent was misjudged, and not really there to start with.

    I don't think JV is untradeable. That all I know.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    That's a little too physical homie
    I saw it outta the corner of my eye once, its massive, like a horse!!!

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    Quote Craig wrote: View Post
    I saw it outta the corner of my eye once, its massive, like a horse!!!
    Shit, no wonder he's such a good post defender

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    Random JV fact of the night



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    He had a nice last week or so.

    I'm liking.

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    Quote Craig wrote: View Post
    He had a nice last week or so.

    I'm liking.
    Super Judge is satisfied, JV is probably happy about that, won't be judged on few game performances.
    #FREE

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    hahaha yes he will, I am the most critical fickle, and unreasonable fan around.

    I use the "youre only as good, or bad, as your last game". "until the next game"


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    Last 5 games: 13.2 PTS, 11.2 REB, 1.4 BLK, 57% shooting and 2.8 fouls

    Jonas averaging 30 minutes a game this month.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post



    Last 5 games: 13.2 PTS, 11.2 REB, 1.4 BLK, 57% shooting and 2.8 fouls

    Jonas averaging 30 minutes a game this month.
    If you play them and if they have talent they will develop.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    If you play them and if they have talent they will develop.
    Exactly.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post
    Exactly.
    That's actually not true, look at Bennett

    If you play them and they have talent AND the drive to get better and improve, they will develop.

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    Quote rocwell wrote: View Post



    Last 5 games: 13.2 PTS, 11.2 REB, 1.4 BLK, 57% shooting and 2.8 fouls

    Jonas averaging 30 minutes a game this month.
    Pretty much the type of numbers I'd hoped for in the first couple of months for Jonas....The December #s that is (even a rebound more than I would have hoped!). And hopefully something he can build and improve upon as the season goes on. He just seemed like he was frustrated and losing confidence in November, between the random usage by the coach, and lack of recognition on the floor by his teammates.

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    Longer al horford, I can feel it

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    Quote Nosike wrote: View Post
    That's actually not true, look at Bennett

    If you play them and they have talent AND the drive to get better and improve, they will develop.
    Bennett was rushed back from an injury by his team, and is not being played in any kind of consistent role. So it is not at all a similar situation. He's averaging 10 mpg with very sporadic stints of playing time.

    He's not being played but he does have talent, and I don't know enough about him to question his drive.

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    Quote Nosike wrote: View Post
    That's actually not true, look at Bennett

    If you play them and they have talent AND the drive to get better and improve, they will develop.
    I agree with your second sentence, but Bennett... This kid came to NBA league after shoulder surgery, he was completely out of shape and he's suffering from multiple health conditions. You CAN expect some good basketball from out of shape pro who's been in league for few years, but not from the rook. Cavs pulled Casey and by drafting Bennett sent message to all of us - "expect unexpected"

    JV is different story, he has great work ethic, wants to win and all he need right now is minutes and trust from his coaches.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    Bennett was rushed back from an injury by his team, and is not being played in any kind of consistent role. So it is not at all a similar situation. He's averaging 10 mpg with very sporadic stints of playing time.

    He's not being played but he does have talent, and I don't know enough about him to question his drive.
    Drive to get better and improve is a given anyways.

    Andrew Bynum is perfect example of all the talent in the world but a team is not going to just give him minutes.

    No one has ever questioned Valanciunas' drive/effort which is why so many, myself included, were so frustrated with him sitting on the bench. Ross, on the other hand, you could question drive/effort - I haven't but many have and I can see why.
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    @bballSource: Jonas Valanciunas is ranked 8th in Post Up (min 100 poss). He's ahead of Kevin Love, West, Duncan, Z-Bo, Boogie
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    Quote isaacthompson wrote: View Post
    @bballSource: Jonas Valanciunas is ranked 8th in Post Up (min 100 poss). He's ahead of Kevin Love, West, Duncan, Z-Bo, Boogie
    so young, so beautiful, so JV :')
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    Dont know if anyone has noticed but every games first posession is a jumper from JV. I like that. He hasn't hit it but it sets up his game for later... just an interesting tidbit.

    Casey benched JV for tic tack fouls he got earlier now hes playing smarter Casey held him on that leash hes earned the playing time now, taught him good habits no doubt, same can be said for Ross.

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    Dont know if anyone has noticed but every games first posession is a jumper from JV. I like that. He hasn't hit it but it sets up his game for later... just an interesting tidbit.

    Casey benched JV for tic tack fouls he got earlier now hes playing smarter Casey held him on that leash hes earned the playing time now, taught him good habits no doubt, same can be said for Ross.
    It's either a jumper or a post up, either way they usually go to him first. His jump shot hasn't been going in lately but I'm not too concerned, it'll start falling eventually.

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