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    Im going JVcrazy. WHY CANT NEXT SEASON START ALREADY?!

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    Biyombo is a larger stronger Pops Mensah Bonsou
    Oh how I miss PMB )':

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    The buyout is virtually nothing for a guy who is poised to have huge paydays in the NBA down the road. Getting over here ASAP, even with the buyout, starts that rookie deal and allows him to be more likely to cash in big twice in North America with veteran contracts. Then you have endorsement deals. He'll be more than fine.

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    Quote japetas wrote: View Post
    He looks like a simple guy, he'll get about $ 3.4M. first year so, $1.5M for him may be enoug. I'm sure his salary in Lithuania is less than a quarter of what he'll get here at the start ($1.5M).
    Don't forget taxes on that $3.4M. He is automatically down to $1.8M.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The buyout is virtually nothing for a guy who is poised to have huge paydays in the NBA down the road. Getting over here ASAP, even with the buyout, starts that rookie deal and allows him to be more likely to cash in big twice in North America with veteran contracts. Then you have endorsement deals. He'll be more than fine.
    He'll be fine eventually I'm sure.

    I am sure BC is lining up every major Canadian corporation to pimp out big V.

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    With such a diverse population as Toronto there should be lots of opportunities for him the recoup some of that buyout money. I posted comments by JYD in a thread last year. Basically the idea he was expressing was all these American players seem to think that their endorsement opportunities in Toronto are limited but on the contrary, being in Toronto is an advantage, especially to those who aren't top tier stars. He went on to say that in Toronto you really have a whole country besides the U.S. to work with, as opposed to players in the U.S. mainly having strong marketing campaigns in their local city but not nationwide unless they're superstars. Basically if you're not a superstar you'll be hard pressed to find a better market for big endorsements than Toronto. Carter obviously had huge endorsement deals in Canada and everywhere but role players like JYD himself would never get the kind of off the court coin he made in Canada if he were playing for say the Pistons.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    As Matt said many much more intelligent and informed people have said that JV is a FRANCHISE CENTER. I haven't heard anything close to that about biyombo. Biyombo is a more athletic Reggie Evans with longer arms
    1) That is an appeal to authority

    2) Bismack is proving in NBA that he is a franchise C...

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    1) That is an appeal to authority

    2) Bismack is proving in NBA that he is a franchise C...
    What is your definition of a franchise C?

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    What is your definition of a franchise C?
    Game changing C. Doesn't really have to be offensive. Unless you can say Ben Wallace wasn't a franchise C...

    He has been solid for the Bobcats, too bad their team is so whack right now.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Game changing C. Doesn't really have to be offensive. Unless you can say Ben Wallace wasn't a franchise C...

    He has been solid for the Bobcats, too bad their team is so whack right now.
    OK.

    For me, when the tag 'franchise' is applied to any position, I think one of the elite at that position throughout the entire league.

    Time will tell if either JV or Biyombo are 'franchise' anything.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Game changing C. Doesn't really have to be offensive. Unless you can say Ben Wallace wasn't a franchise C...

    He has been solid for the Bobcats, too bad their team is so whack right now.
    i would say fantastic role player for ben wallace. not really a franchise center. after a franchise center signs a max deal he doesn't become a liability to the team

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    It's hard to label one-dimensional players as "franchise players". Mutumbo was a great defensive player, but I've never heard anyone refer to him as a franchise player. And Biyombo has a long way to go before he ever reaches Mutumbo's accolades.
    "I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder

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    If Biyombo is considered a franchise centre or a 1st NBA all defensive team in the next three years, I will streak down Yonge street. He is nowhere near as versatile as JV. Why are we even debating this?

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    Next season we may be watching the combination of Anthony Davis and Biyombo defending the rim in Charlotte.

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    Quote thead wrote: View Post
    If Biyombo is considered a franchise centre or a 1st NBA all defensive team in the next three years, I will streak down Yonge street. He is nowhere near as versatile as JV. Why are we even debating this?
    I think there is a minority opinion that the Raptors should have drafted Biyombo.

    ...like Biyombo's game, looking forward to JV's arrival.

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    Biyombos athleticism is the only thing that puts him ahead of Valanciunas and players dont excel purely on athletism (see Tyrus Thomas, Sean Williams, Hasheem Thabeet etc.) so sometimes it's better to draft less athletic players, but with better fundamentals and there's a better chance of them becoming high impact nba players

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    Trade him for prospects!!!! (couldn't help myself)

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    "so much potential!!"

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    Quote Ion66 wrote: View Post
    Trade him for prospects!!!! (couldn't help myself)
    Yea trade him, if it would happen I wish he could make you regret for that.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    1) That is an appeal to authority

    2) Bismack is proving in NBA that he is a franchise C...
    Lol don't make me laugh he's not even close if he was a franchise C the bobcats wouldn't be as crap as they are right now

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