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    I never thought I'd be this happy watching Kleiza.

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    Hows JV doing? What are his stats currently?

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    No good.

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    Stats?

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    Quote enlightenment wrote: View Post
    Stats?
    No Good.

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    real helpful gentlemen!

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    wow who is this kleiza guy we should sign him
    nobody saw this?


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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Things continue to look bleaker for JJ.

    I don't know man, Johnson is still Casey favourite, despite the benchings.

    He's taylor-made for DCase.


    Johnson and Kleiza are a fun comparison, in that they're Black and White when you compare their respective strengths and weaknesses.

    I would deem James Johnsons strengths far more valuable, and harder to come by, than Kleiza's.

    I could see DCase and BC having a disagreement on which one to keep. haha
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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    nobody saw this?
    Now THAT is impressive.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    I don't know man, Johnson is still Casey favourite, despite the benchings.

    He's taylor-made for DCase.


    Johnson and Kleiza are a fun comparison, in that they're Black and White when you compare their respective strengths and weaknesses.

    I would deem James Johnsons strengths far more valuable, and harder to come by, than Kleiza's.

    I could see DCase and BC having a disagreement on which one to keep. haha
    JJ isn't a shooter though. Statistically, isn't LK and JJ on the same level defensively despite the flashy stl/blk numbers from JJ?

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    I wonder if we're overvaluing Kleiza's role as Jonas's "mentor". Jonas seems to have a good grasp of English already, and seems to be somewhat familiar with the ritzy lifestyle (based on Colangelo's anecdotes). Does Jonas really need a Lithuanian confidant?

    Maybe Kleiza really is a trade/amnesty option?
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    isn't LK and JJ on the same level defensively despite the flashy stl/blk numbers from JJ?
    No. I'm not sure its even close. But maybe thats just me.
    Johnson has a chance to be a Top 5 Wing Defender in the League in my opinion.
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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    No. I'm not sure its even close. But maybe thats just me.
    Johnson has a chance to be a Top 5 Wing Defender in the League in my opinion.
    I'm talking strictly numbers.

    oppPER edge goes to Kleiza at 12.4 to JJ's 14.2 and net on/off court.

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    Can you be objective here with JJ a part of your fantasy roster? jk

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I'm talking strictly numbers.

    oppPER edge goes to Kleiza at 12.4 to JJ's 14.2 and net on/off court.
    But thats only ONE number. haha I think if you look at their entire repertoire, James Johnson has far more of a chance to be impact player on the Defensive End than Kleiza. One could argue that JJ already is an impact player on that end. I would.

    And you can't really say 'forget JJs fancy Blocks/Steals', because those are where-in his impact lies.
    His Steals were, for the most part, not taken to the detriment of the Team ie. straying from his man, playing lanes he shouldn't be; and Blocks are NEVER detrimental to the Team.
    On top of those numbers, he's a far better help defender.

    And his shot is improving.

    Can you be objective here with JJ a part of your fantasy roster? jk
    NEVER! He's a potential Keeper! haha
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    JV just played 9 minutes tonight? 5 points. onwards and upwards (but between him and Kleiza combined...33 points!)

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    Jclaw
    JV just played 9 minutes tonight? 5 points. onwards and upwards (but between him and Kleiza combined...33 points!)
    Yeah he had 4 fouls pretty quick. I thought at least two were good fouls where the guards blew by the defenders and he wrapped them up. 1 was a solid block attempt -- can't remember the other. He looked alright, but if you're the kid on a team where Darius Songalia(m/s?) is the third C off the bench...You are just not going to get fed the ball. Maybe against Nigeria if they can rest their key guys He'll get more burn/looks.

    Kleiza was killing it in the first half. If he can keep healthy our bench just got a lot stronger.

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    I think Kleiza is slowly getting back to his pre-injury shape. Naturally, he might never be completely the same, but most of it is coming back with time and practice, in my opinion.
    Last edited by omgsomuchpotential; Tue Jul 3rd, 2012 at 10:30 PM.

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    In international play Kleiza is among the very best in the world. The NBA is a different story as we know.

    I feel that expectations for Valanciunas' rookie NBA year are unrealistic and to a certain extent, unfair to JV. I hope that Raptors fans will have some patience as he develops his NBA game and realizes his potential. He will struggle at times.
    Last edited by stretch; Wed Jul 4th, 2012 at 12:26 AM.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I wonder if we're overvaluing Kleiza's role as Jonas's "mentor". Jonas seems to have a good grasp of English already, and seems to be somewhat familiar with the ritzy lifestyle (based on Colangelo's anecdotes). Does Jonas really need a Lithuanian confidant?

    Maybe Kleiza really is a trade/amnesty option?
    I'd rather keep him, I like him

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    yo guys last night game (prolly not night for you ) 1 quarter (uploading the rest as i write this - so check back later for the end):







    Last edited by Skaloon; Wed Jul 4th, 2012 at 08:25 AM.

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