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    Default What is your "ideal" or "realistic" scenario for the Raptors 2016 off-season? (Bragging rights included)

    So its a bit early for this but since people are torn about the direction of where the Raptors are going I thought it might be a good time for the posters of RR to predict where the team is going. You can either respond with the scenario in which you want the Raptors to go or the scenario in which you think the Raptors are headed-- think what will Masai do? Just make sure you say it in your post. I'm just curious to what the posters come up with the options available to us.

    Plus, in about a year we'll see who's right and who was not so right. It'll sort of be like one of those bragging rights threads. Should be interesting!

    Here's the cap situation, courtesy PlanetMars. Shout outs to PlanetMars. (I slightly altered it so we have the 10th pick instead of the 5th)

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    Carroll, Lowry, CoJo, 2Pat, JV, Wright, Powell:
    $56,398,939

    Bruno (Team Option):
    $57,988,579

    Bebe (Team Option):
    $59,908,899

    2016 first (assume #10) - $2,068,100 - cap hold (should be signed @ 120% of that)
    2016 first (assume #20) - $1,301,900 - cap hold (should be signed @ 120% of that)
    $63,278,899

    12th spot cap hold - $543,471 (minimum salary)
    $63,822,370

    DeMar's cap hold - $15,075,000
    Biyombo's (Player option) - $2,940,630
    Ross (Qualifying offer) - $4.790,680
    Let's assume the cap is $89M for next year.

    You have $25,177,630 cap space left.

    What do you spend with this cap space and how does your final roster end up looking?

    Things to consider:
    -Re-signing DD, JJ, Scola, De-colo
    -Forgot about everyone mentioned above and sign KD (There's other ways in getting him but this seems like the easiest but you can create other ways in which you get him as well like trading Lowry and others)
    -Or sign other free agents not named KD
    -You can also trade away existing players that you believe aren't in the long term future plans
    -You can also include trades that happen at the trade deadline or earlier
    -You can do sign-and-trades
    -You can trade away draft picks completely (to free up cap space) or trade draft picks to obtain a higher pick in the draft
    -You can convince BB to not pick up his player option and have an extra 2.9 mil in cap
    -You can trade away guys who are apart of the core (But you need to give a reason for this)
    -You can also not pick up Bebe or Bruno's team options to clear up more cap space
    etc…

    Here's what our roster looks like in 2016 without any changes/moves made:

    Lowry/Cojo/Wright
    ?/Ross/Powell
    Caroll/Bruno
    ?/Patterson
    JV/BB/Bebe
    Last edited by BS10; Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 11:30 PM.
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    Too early to talk about it

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    Sign Batum to a 18M per year deal. Sign Ross to a 6M per year deal. Draft a top notch PF with the Knicks' pick. Aim for max cap room in 2017.

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    Please no this will talk into a DD flame war again. But personally I think we have a shot at KD through some sort of sign and trade with DD.... how ever if we keep DD and sign our pick I would be happy.

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    Ideal?

    Trade away the entire roster except our 2016 pick, CoJo and Bruno. Sign Durant, Horford and Dwight. Draft Jamal Murray

    CoJo
    Murray
    KD
    Horford
    Dwight

    As for the realistic one, I don't wanna get into a DeBate so I'll just leave that alone.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Sign Batum to a 18M per year deal. Sign Ross to a 6M per year deal. Draft a top notch PF with the Knicks' pick. Aim for max cap room in 2017.
    Thats interesting and a likely possibility. I wouldn't mind that at all, especially if Ross improves to becoming the SG we need. I'm assuming we sell Carroll as our starting PF. So we would look something like this at the end of it:

    Lowry/Cojo/Wright
    Ross/Powell
    Batum/Bruno
    Carroll/Patterson
    JV/BB

    Doesn't look bad at all. Major bragging rights if you get it right!
    Last edited by BS10; Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 11:28 PM.
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    Quote JWash wrote: View Post
    Ideal?

    Trade away the entire roster except our 2016 pick, CoJo and Bruno. Sign Durant, Horford and Dwight. Draft Jamal Murray

    CoJo
    Murray
    KD
    Horford
    Dwight

    As for the realistic one, I don't wanna get into a DeBate so I'll just leave that alone.
    Haha, we'd be a little short at depth but that'd be a definite contender and challenge the likes of Lebron and the Cavs for multiple ECFs. We'd also average 55+ wins every year and win the atlantic division for the next 10 years.

    That's fair, about the realistic possibility of our team, since i've already read your suggestions made in the other threads. I don't blame ya. You guys might shut this thread down as well if you bring up the Debate
    Last edited by BS10; Sat Aug 29th, 2015 at 11:24 PM.
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    Quote BS10 wrote: View Post
    Thats interesting and a likely possibility. I wouldn't mind that at all, especially if Ross improves to becoming the SG we need. I'm assuming we sell Carroll as our starting PF. So we would look something like this at the end of it:

    Lowry/Cojo/Wright
    Ross/Powell
    Batum/Bruno
    Carroll/Patterson
    JV/BB

    Doesn't look bad at all. Major bragging rights if you get it right!
    I think batum would be the likely starter at sg. He fits well as a playmaker and secondary ballhandeler. He can shoot as well and defend, overall i like him. We may be looking to become very international with batum, jv, cojo, bruno, biyombo, and potentially our next few draft picks. I dont mind that at all. Batum is playing sg for the Hornets and should work well there. If ross makes a great unexpected leap then i gusss we could play him/batum/carroll than that could work tho i suppose.

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    Quote DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post
    I think batum would be the likely starter at sg. He fits well as a playmaker and secondary ballhandeler. He can shoot as well and defend, overall i like him. We may be looking to become very international with batum, jv, cojo, bruno, biyombo, and potentially our next few draft picks. I dont mind that at all. Batum is playing sg for the Hornets and should work well there. If ross makes a great unexpected leap then i gusss we could play him/batum/carroll than that could work tho i suppose.
    If TRoss rebounds and they sign Batum then trading Ross makes the most sense. It tricky because he's an RFA but Batum at SG with DC at the 3 makes the most sense and a good Ross shouldn't be a backup. Again Ross stratus makes it tough

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    Quote raptors999 wrote: View Post
    If TRoss rebounds and they sign Batum then trading Ross makes the most sense. It tricky because he's an RFA but Batum at SG with DC at the 3 makes the most sense and a good Ross shouldn't be a backup. Again Ross stratus makes it tough
    In this dreamy hypothetical scenario id rather keep a new, improved Ross and have insane depth. He could still get a lot of minutes and then if a superstar became available id package him with other assets.

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    Ideally:

    JV/Bebe
    Horford/ NYK/DEN pick
    DC/Bruno
    Durant/Powell
    Cojo/Wright

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    Ross as a backup wing for cheap is fine. I'd still expect Patterson to hold down the starting spot at PF for a year while "insert stud PF rookie from Knicks pick" develops for a year.

    Lowry-Batum-Carroll-Patterson-JV. With CoJo-Ross-Bruno-Rookie-BeBe off the bench.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Ross as a backup wing for cheap is fine. I'd still expect Patterson to hold down the starting spot at PF for a year while "insert stud PF rookie from Knicks pick" develops for a year.

    Lowry-Batum-Carroll-Patterson-JV. With CoJo-Ross-Bruno-Rookie-BeBe off the bench.
    In this scenario, was DD left to walk or was he traded?
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    Quote Axel wrote: View Post
    In this scenario, was DD left to walk or was he traded?
    Ideally traded for assets (but no salary) but probably just let walk.

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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Ross as a backup wing for cheap is fine. I'd still expect Patterson to hold down the starting spot at PF for a year while "insert stud PF rookie from Knicks pick" develops for a year.

    Lowry-Batum-Carroll-Patterson-JV. With CoJo-Ross-Bruno-Rookie-BeBe off the bench.
    But if he recovers and is a decent 3-D guard then he won't be cheap and he is wasted on the second unit and he blocks Powell who could do the same cheaper. Lowry-Batum-Carroll means the Raptors have 2 windows, the LBC unit all in their 30s and a CoJo-Wright-Powell window in their mid-20s and cheap. Not sure how Demar or Ross fits either with Bruno and picks also incoming

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    Quote JawsGT wrote: View Post
    Ideally:

    JV/Bebe
    Horford/ NYK/DEN pick
    DC/Bruno
    Durant/Powell
    Cojo/Wright
    So with this line up, its assumed that Toronto becomes the "it" destination for high caliber free agents. But in order to get Hortford first, we'd already have Durant locked up in a deal. Durant playing the 2 would a nightmare matchup for the other team in any situation, as he's already difficult to guard at the 3 but the other team would still send its best defender at him. It is very dreamy/ideal but could also be a possibility. Who knows, we'll have to wait and see.
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    Quote DanH wrote: View Post
    Ross as a backup wing for cheap is fine. I'd still expect Patterson to hold down the starting spot at PF for a year while "insert stud PF rookie from Knicks pick" develops for a year.

    Lowry-Batum-Carroll-Patterson-JV. With CoJo-Ross-Bruno-Rookie-BeBe off the bench.
    Ah, that makes things a lot more interesting of what the rotations/starters look like. Probably more effective on small ball with a 3 point threat all around on the from 1-4. I guess our #1 option would become Lowry and #2 JV or maybe 1a and 1b. I think this would be the line up Casey would be intrigued about playing but IDK if he's even here for the 2016-17 season.
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    Quote DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post
    I think batum would be the likely starter at sg. He fits well as a playmaker and secondary ballhandeler. He can shoot as well and defend, overall i like him. We may be looking to become very international with batum, jv, cojo, bruno, biyombo, and potentially our next few draft picks. I dont mind that at all. Batum is playing sg for the Hornets and should work well there. If ross makes a great unexpected leap then i gusss we could play him/batum/carroll than that could work tho i suppose.
    Yea I agree, Batum is a really good playmaker and ball handler. I loved watching him when he was on Portland and was healthy and was playing extremely well for their team. I wouldn't mind him at the 2 spot if DD walks or we trade him for more assets. Our squad already does have an international flavour to it and Batum would add to the mix/diversity. We'll be the Spurs of the east. Batum joining our team is a strong possibility if his time in Charlotte doesn't work out.
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    To me the ideal one is you bring in Durant and the more realistic one is you re-sign DeMar.

    Valanciunas/Biyombo/Nogueira
    Patterson/Rookie
    Carroll/Caboclo
    Durant/Powell
    Lowry/Joseph/Wright

    Valanciunas/Biyombo/Nogueira
    Patterson/Scola/Rookie
    Carroll/Johnson/Caboclo
    DeRozan/Ross/Powell
    Lowry/Joseph/Wright

    So yeah, if we are able to keep the same roster as this year but have a top 10 draft pick rookie PF instead of our 15th man of this season, I'd be pretty happy knowing that we can get our last piece in the summer of 2017.

    *I also like Batum, but I don't see the point of getting him on this team...

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    Personally I'm not convinced that Batum will bounce back this year. He was awful last year, so he needs to show a lot this year before I'd call him an upgrade over anyone.
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