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    Default 2015 Raptors Offseason - Everything rumors, musings and rumblings

    Thad Young: I personally really like him and would rather him than Amir-- but of course-- people disagree. What are your thoughts on him? If he opts-out would you offer him a deal? If so, how much?
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    treadmill move if he's going to be your starting 4.

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    I was watching Hawks/Nets. Don't like him.

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    Default Raptors #1 Offseason Priority

    Sign Paul Pierce!! Masai can trade for him or something. Then the Raptors can make the playoffs and win a round next year and it will be great. See Casey's not the biggest problem, it's that Paul Pierce keeps getting in the way.

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    "win a round next year and it will be great"








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    Oh man, the playoff sweep crazies are in full affect!!!
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    When a guy named NeedTristanThompson makes a post that the number one priority is getting Paul Pierce, you can't help but feel for the poor soul, who has clearly lost his way.

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    Under Casey, we all know Pierce would be taking contested 3s while fading to his left and making them at a 20% clip while playing no defense at all.
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    Quote hotfuzz wrote: View Post
    Under Casey, we all know Pierce would be taking contested 3s while fading to his left and making them at a 20% clip while playing no defense at all.
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    Default Green or Middleton: pick one

    A lot of people here have suggested that the Raps should pursue Khris Middleton and/or Draymond Green this summer. I'm not going to argue that either player would be a fine addition to the squad: they can both defend multiple positions, they can both shoot from range, and they both play at positions where they would be hefty upgrades for the Raptors.

    However, one more thing they both are is restricted free agents. And in order to get an RFA, you have to overpay them. Look what happened last season when Charlotte went after Gordon Hayward: they signed an offer sheet for four years for 63 million, and Utah matched (wisely).

    In essence, what this means is that if we want to snag Middleton or Green, we're likely going to have offer a max deal. (Middleton might go for slightly less, but not much less - maybe 13-14m/year gets it done.) But realistically, we will only have cap space enough for one of them.

    So: pick one. We can afford to go after one of Middleton or Green. Which one would you pursue?

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    BOTH i pick both
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    green

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    Good question.

    I love Green. Loved him at Michigan State. Love what he's done in Golden State. But my vote is Middleton.

    A lot of similarities but ultimately Middleton is a better shooter, and is doing it without the benefit of Steph Curry and Klay Thompson helping him to get open looks.

    I think Green's role allows him to get more rebounds, but don't think he is significantly a better rebounder (he is better though).

    Green's defence is better, but I also think he has a lower ceiling. Green is likely reached his peak now, while I feel that Middleton will get better.
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    BOTH i pick both
    oo, lets get Kawhi and Aldridge as well then

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    Quote Jangles wrote: View Post
    oo, lets get Kawhi and Aldridge as well then
    don't be unrealistic
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    As you noted Green is the better choice imo. I haven't researched the cap situations of either GSW or Mil. but this would come into play if either team were up against it. Mil. has already made the requisite statement that they will match on Middleton but Green will be a hard get as well...he is a favourite of Kerr's and I believe they would rather lose some other asset than Green. Lastly, there will be other suitors. A pessimistic outlook I am afraid.

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    I'd go for Middleton.

    I think at this point it would be absolutely crazy for GSW not to match any offer for Green. If cap considerations are a concern, I'd figure they'd look to cut costs anywhere else they can...and even if they can't it'll really only matter just for next season, where they'll pay a decent tax bill, but then after Lee's contract expires as the cap likely goes up a decent amount so they'll be in a good cap situation again. (*Note: tax bill shouldn't scare a team like GSW who will be in the playoffs, sometimes making deep runs, every season...they'll more than offset any tax they pay)

    Middleton's a tougher guy to figure. Milwaukee easily can afford to sign him at any price, but will they? His value is probably lower than Green's. He really fits best as a wing role player, so a max deal might just seem enough like an overpay that they don't match, or maybe they accept a S&T. They're such a young team with so much growing still to do, neither choice (matching or not) would surprise me.

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    To add more about Green leaving...he's the "better" choice means he'll have more interest from teams. He's also a Michigan guy, and Detroit has come up as a possible landing spot.

    I really can't see Toronto competing with several teams, including his current contender GSW and his 'hometown' Pistons.

    Heck, I think it'd probably be easier to get Butler out of Chicago. Chicago's notoriously cheap and has been allergic to paying luxury tax.

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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    To add more about Green leaving...he's the "better" choice means he'll have more interest from teams. He's also a Michigan guy, and Detroit has come up as a possible landing spot.

    I really can't see Toronto competing with several teams, including his current contender GSW and his 'hometown' Pistons.

    Heck, I think it'd probably be easier to get Butler out of Chicago. Chicago's notoriously cheap and has been allergic to paying luxury tax.
    I do wonder if Mo Pete and his Michigan State alumni-ism could work any magic. MSU alum are fairly tight, especially anyone who played for Izzo. Plus Toronto isn't that far from Detroit. I'd say we will lose to Detroit for sure, but maybe they go a different direction.

    Not optimistic, but we have a few small things going for us at least.
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    Between those two I say Green, but I think both teams match.

    What if the choice is between Middleton and Carroll? Carroll is a UFA and won't require a max deal. He's also a vet with playoff experience. I'd rather offer the money to Carroll.

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