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    Default Tier - Ranking players

    Not sure if this has ever been discussed here but ill present it anyways.

    What do you guys think if the NBA came up with a ranking of the players? LIke Tier 1, Tier 2, etc etc.

    This way, players can be ranked by skill and performance and placed in a certain salary range. Im thinking one advantage would be fair trades, next would be fair salaries.

    Would this be feasible in the NBA?

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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    Not sure if this has ever been discussed here but ill present it anyways.

    What do you guys think if the NBA came up with a ranking of the players? LIke Tier 1, Tier 2, etc etc.

    This way, players can be ranked by skill and performance and placed in a certain salary range. Im thinking one advantage would be fair trades, next would be fair salaries.

    Would this be feasible in the NBA?
    Like Socialism, as an idea it sounds perfect.
    But in execution, I'm just not sure it would work.

    How do you choose which "Tier" a player falls into? Is it based on Stats? Minutes? Opinion? Ego?

    There is no, completely non-subjective way of doing that,and that will just cause some guys and their agents to argue they deserve to be in next 'tier'. Unless there is a completely objective methodology to ranking the Tiers, then it will still cause Headaches for all involved.
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    really just a Tier 7 suggestion

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Like Socialism, as an idea it sounds perfect.
    But in execution, I'm just not sure it would work.

    How do you choose which "Tier" a player falls into? Is it based on Stats? Minutes? Opinion? Ego?

    There is no, completely non-subjective way of doing that,and that will just cause some guys and their agents to argue they deserve to be in next 'tier'. Unless there is a completely objective methodology to ranking the Tiers, then it will still cause Headaches for all involved.
    Would it be possible to base it on stats?
    Like in a typical work environment, youre actually ranked based on output and quality of work.
    So as an NBA player, if you produce more stats, the higher your ranking is. I dont think players will become ballhogs coz at the current system, they can actually already do that, but its seldom you see a third stringer opting to take the last shot instead of getting the ball to a Kobe or Durant.

    Of course there also needs to be a hardcap so that no one team cant sign 10 Tier 1 players.

    It would also be good coz a team would be paying for results rather than potential.

    But you are right, it could be tricky and hard to implement. But what im already seeing is basically an invisible ranking anyways, i dont think Derek Fisher's agent will demand the same salary as Kobe's eventhough theyre in the same draft class...so i guess there is somewhat already an unwritten rule, sort of "know your place" and implementing a Tier would just formalize it.

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    Quote black angus wrote: View Post
    really just a Tier 7 suggestion
    hater, hehehe

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    Just to add, there would be a different Tier for rookies and players who have come back from long layoff due to injuries.

    Also, players wont be able to take less money just to join a contender, coz they are placed in a specific salary range that they cant control, unless they play crappy intentionally for the duration of their contract.

    hhhmmm, this is starting to sound communistic! hahaha
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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    Would it be possible to base it on stats?
    If you think stat stuffing is an issue in contract years now, wait till this happens....

    Not to mention the nightmare involved in assigining values to rebounds, points , steals, charges - vs minutes played....and which stats are more valuable than the rest...

    I dont think using advanced metrics of any sort ie. Wins Produced would help either.

    In principal a good idea, execution near impossible me thinks.