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Thread: The Amir Johnson Conundrum - Gold or Fallacy? Part 2 begins in post 90

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    Default The Amir Johnson Conundrum - Gold or Fallacy? Part 2 begins in post 90

    Been noticing on the boards lately that posters seem split on Amir, some think he is overpaid, some think he's the most valuable Raptor....

    What do you guys think? Is Amir worth more to the Raps in the roster, or as trade bait?

    IMO, i think it can go both ways. Amir is definitely one of the valuable pieces in the Raps roster, but i also think he can command a trade higher than what he is really valued for. I think there are many teams in the league who are willing to overtrade for Amir. And if one of those teams come knocking, should the Raps listen? I think so. Just because we already have JV and Ed on the roster.
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    Amir is a great first big off the bench. I do not think he is starting calibre on a TOP team. His contract is reasonable, his pay is in line with his performance. He does not turn 25 until May so he is still 'young' with potential.

    I would trade Bargnani before Amir.

    I would trade ED before Amir if the Raptors selected a PF in the draft who had more potential than both. Given ED's rookie deal with higher potential, I think he would have higher trade value.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Amir is a great first big off the bench. I do not think he is starting calibre on a TOP team. His contract is reasonable, his pay is in line with his performance. He does not turn 25 until May so he is still 'young' with potential.

    I would trade Bargnani before Amir.

    I would trade ED before Amir if the Raptors selected a PF in the draft who had more potential than both. Given ED's rookie deal with higher potential, I think he would have higher trade value.
    I guess i was already assuming that Bargnani is first to go before Amir when i started the thread.
    Just didnt want to mention it or else this is gonna turn into another Bargnani thread!

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    Can Amir fetch you a lottery pick on his own, I don't think so. Is he a valuable player in a 4 man big rotation to the Raptor's, yes. Is he a player that is hard to replace, no.

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    I'm torn on Amir. I like his hustle, his attitude, and his willingness to play through injuries. But I don't see him in our starting front court over Davis. Yes, he's still relatively young, but I don't see him getting much better than he currently is.

    Having said that, if he can turn into the type of glue/chemistry guy that Haslem is for the Heat, then perhaps Amir is more valuable than his numbers (seen at face value) suggest.

    And the fact that some see Amir as our best player last year, is really an indication of how poor our roster is, rather than how good Amir is.
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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    Can Amir fetch you a lottery pick on his own, I don't think so. Is he a valuable player in a 4 man big rotation to the Raptor's, yes. Is he a player that is hard to replace, no.
    In terms of work ethic, production, person, contract, still untapped potential, and relative to other back up bigs around the league, I think he would be difficult to replace. But that is just me.

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    This is a post I did in March looking at Amir's production versus salary versus other PF/C making similar money