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    I meant a 2nd pick, not a 2nd round pick. But Colangelo will have to pull a few strings to make that happen
    Yeah my mistake, didn't read that properly. Makes a lot more sense lol.

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    Is Fruitman (or whatever his name is) upto snuff on all these rules already?

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    I do not believe you can combine TPE with players salary.... I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

    Teams that are in the tax are governed by the old 125% + 100K rule.
    Non tax teams can do 150% + 100K or 100% + $5M whichever is less.
    Speaking of TPEs, what ever happened to Bosh's? Did it expire, or did the lockout postpone it's expiry date.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Speaking of TPEs, what ever happened to Bosh's? Did it expire, or did the lockout postpone it's expiry date.
    Good question. That might be a B issue they need to work out.
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Speaking of TPEs, what ever happened to Bosh's? Did it expire, or did the lockout postpone it's expiry date.
    Bosh's TPE expired on July 13 but because of the lockout on July 1st, I am unsure what happened to it.

    I would assume it would be good for 13 days after the ratification of the new CBA which appears to be December 9th.

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    Something the Raptors could look at trying to do is similar to what OKC did with Nick Collison.

    The Raptors could look at signing a free agent this year with a huge signing bonus to save cap space in future years. the signing bonus would count towards the cap this year (assuming the Raptors maintain cap space) and then the remaining years of the contract would be much smaller.. They currently have a payroll of about $50M. As soon as the tip off happens, they will lose JV's cap hold of $2.9M taking them to $47M.


    What I would like to see the Raptors do is go with essentially the roster they have now only adding players on minimum contracts or make a trade that sends 1 player out with 2 coming back and then shedding some salary during the season (trade Bargnani, Barbosa, or Calderon) and take back less money - like $4-5M less. This way the Raptors have the minimum 13 players on the roster and $14M in cap space.

    When Wilson Chandler becomes a free agent in March offer him a 4 year $16M contract with a signing bonus of $10M this year (total 4yr/$26M).

    Next year, Toronto will have a SF who is legit starter in the league and capable of guarding 2, 3, or 4. If the Raptors acquire a top wing in the draft, you have a player with great versatility coming off the bench. Really good teams typically have players who would start on bad or average teams.

    Toronto then maintains versatility next year in free agency and adds a great young player to their bench to go with Amir, JJ, (hopefully a healthy) Kleiza, and (hopefully a much improved) Alabi.


    Clearly the above is much easier typed than done and highly unlikely but it is just an idea.

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    Something the Raptors could look at trying to do is similar to what OKC did with Nick Collison.

    The Raptors could look at signing a free agent this year with a huge signing bonus to save cap space in future years. the signing bonus would count towards the cap this year (assuming the Raptors maintain cap space) and then the remaining years of the contract would be much smaller.. They currently have a payroll of about $50M. As soon as the tip off happens, they will lose JV's cap hold of $2.9M taking them to $47M.


    What I would like to see the Raptors do is go with essentially the roster they have now only adding players on minimum contracts or make a trade that sends 1 player out with 2 coming back and then shedding some salary during the season (trade Bargnani, Barbosa, or Calderon) and take back less money - like $4-5M less. This way the Raptors have the minimum 13 players on the roster and $14M in cap space.

    When Wilson Chandler becomes a free agent in March offer him a 4 year $16M contract with a signing bonus of $10M this year (total 4yr/$26M).

    Next year, Toronto will have a SF who is legit starter in the league and capable of guarding 2, 3, or 4. If the Raptors acquire a top wing in the draft, you have a player with great versatility coming off the bench. Really good teams typically have players who would start on bad or average teams.

    Toronto then maintains versatility next year in free agency and adds a great young player to their bench to go with Amir, JJ, (hopefully a healthy) Kleiza, and (hopefully a much improved) Alabi.


    Clearly the above is much easier typed than done and highly unlikely but it is just an idea.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    When Wilson Chandler becomes a free agent in March offer him a 4 year $16M contract with a signing bonus of $10M this year (total 4yr/$26M).
    It will be interesting to see which teams can tender an offer to Wilson Chandler when he becomes a free-agent.

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    Is he going to available in March? Is that when his contract finishes? I'd actually be up for trying to get him. He's young, a legit starter and it's not as if his presence for a couple of months is going to make that big a difference. I wonder if he'd want to wait, though, and see what his options were in the summer.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Is he going to available in March? Is that when his contract finishes? I'd actually be up for trying to get him. He's young, a legit starter and it's not as if his presence for a couple of months is going to make that big a difference. I wonder if he'd want to wait, though, and see what his options were in the summer.
    He will be a free agent once his contract in China ends which is March from my understanding.

    Hypothetically speaking and assuming what I proposed was even possible, if you were Wilson Chandler at 24/25 years of age, would you turn down $10M up front and $16 more million over the next 4 years heading in to a strong free agent summer?

    The only way I see him refusing is if he thinks he'll get more money this summer.

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    He will be a free agent once his contract in China ends which is March from my understanding.

    Hypothetically speaking and assuming what I proposed was even possible, if you were Wilson Chandler at 24/25 years of age, would you turn down $10M up front and $16 more million over the next 4 years heading in to a strong free agent summer?

    The only way I see him refusing is if he thinks he'll get more money this summer.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Email it to Bryan!
    No need.

    You know Bryan scours these forums :P

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    Simple question. If you had choice, would you rather bring back Reggie Evans, or Alexis Ajinça? Thank you.

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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Simple question. If you had choice, would you rather bring back Reggie Evans, or Alexis Ajinça? Thank you.
    That is very simple. Reggie no question. Ajinca is an ugly waste of Height.
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    I'd only take Reggie if it was a short term deal (2 years) and for max 3million a season. I think Reggie is in the mini-MLE range, and therefore will probably go to a contender. I can see Miami or Dallas wanting someone like him for example.

    I would say no to Ajinca even if Reggie was unavailable.

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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Simple question. If you had choice, would you rather bring back Reggie Evans, or Alexis Ajinça? Thank you.
    Neither.

    Reggie can only rebound and further exposes Andrea's inability to rotate correctly as he is also a pylon oin defense preferring to stay in good rebounding position above all. I cannot see Reggie being paired with Ed or Amir is just plain too weak oiffensively.

    Alexis is to Andrea what Andrea is to Dirk, except even more so in my opinion.

    I would rather the minutes go to Solomon to determine what he can do and what does he bring when paired up with Amir, Andrea, and Ed. The Raptors have a decision to make about which bigs to keep in the next 12 months and I think Andrea, Amir, Ed, and even Solomon are part of the equation. Best to play them and experiment with different combinations to provide as good an evaluation as you can within the timeframe remaining.

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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Simple question. If you had choice, would you rather bring back Reggie Evans, or Alexis Ajinça? Thank you.
    Ajinca. He is athletic and mobile. He showed flashes in limited court time last season. It would be worth seeing what Casey could work him. Anything more than a minimum deal would be out of the question though.

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    Yeah, Ajincia. He'd be substantially cheaper, too.
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    He will be a free agent once his contract in China ends which is March from my understanding.

    Hypothetically speaking and assuming what I proposed was even possible, if you were Wilson Chandler at 24/25 years of age, would you turn down $10M up front and $16 more million over the next 4 years heading in to a strong free agent summer?

    The only way I see him refusing is if he thinks he'll get more money this summer.
    Rumor was that some of the players in China would be released by their teams when the lockout ends. So there is a good chance Chandler will become available very shortly.

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    Rumor was that some of the players in China would be released by their teams when the lockout ends. So there is a good chance Chandler will become available very shortly.
    There have been a lot of rumours. The most recent I read today at HoopsHype.com, specifically to Wilson Chandler, was he is to honour his contract and explore options in March.


    Players Stuck in China: The Chinese Basketball Association won’t let NBA players such as Wilson Chandler, Kenyon Martin and J.R. Smith out of their contracts just because the lockout has ended, sources close to the situation confirm.

    The players have been told that they won’t be released and that they must stay for the duration of the season. While many reports have suggested that these players will be free to sign with NBA teams in March, one player who signed in China will attempt to leave in mid-February, when his team’s regular season comes to an end.

    While there was a belief that the teams would release the players as part of a handshake agreement, that was never the case. In fact, the Chinese Basketball Association implemented very strict rules that would punish teams who used an NBA player and then let him return to the United States.

    “Once a U.S. player plays in China, by rule his team will have to forfeit every game if he plays in a single NBA game before the [CBA] season is up,” said one source close to a Chinese team.

    This is why the Chinese teams have indicated that they’ll sit these players for the season before they let them return to the NBA. Someone like Aaron Brooks may be able to leave because he signed very recently and hasn’t played in a game yet. Remember, it was awfully easy for Earl Clark to leave Zhejiang when he hadn’t played a single game.

    Chandler, Martin and Smith are a different story. This will just make the season even more unusual because teams will be able to sign quality free agents just as they’re gearing up for their postseason run.
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-ple...ors-surfacing/

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