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    Default Raptors a "serious" suitor of DeAndre Jordan?

    If the Los Angeles Clippers are content to have restricted free-agent center DeAndre Jordan(notes) bring them back an offer sheet to match, the line of suitors is long and serious, league executives said. The Toronto Raptors, New Orleans Hornets, Houston Rockets, Golden State Warriors and Minnesota Timberwolves are teams with salary-cap space considering multiyear offers for Jordan.
    Source: Yahoo Sports

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    Not a real strong connection, we have some cap space and could use a center....

    I am not really sold on Jordan anyway, decent rebounder and shot-blocker, but the guy shoots free throws worse than Reggie Evans.
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    While I like them going after a young big man like Jordan more than older guys like Chandler and Nene, I still don't see the point. What happens next year when Valanciunas comes? The front court is already crowded. Do they sign Jordan only to trade him? You can't pay Jordan the amount of money it would take to steal him away from the Clippers (and the other teams) only to platoon him.

    I have a feeling this rumour is about as solid as the ones about Chandler.
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    I think they'd sign Jordan and trade someone else if it's true. Someone like Amir Johnson or Andrea Bargnani. Maybe they assume JV can play PF? I think it would be a fair assumption.

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    He's my favorite FA big man! I will be seriously enthralled if they do actually get him. Not really counting on it though.
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    They'd probably have to amnesty Calderon or Johnson or Bargnani to get it done.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    They'd probably have to amnesty Calderon or Johnson or Bargnani to get it done.
    Amnesty Calderon, trade Bargnani and sign Jordan. Then when Valanciunas comes, and the draft happens, they can figure out what they need to do then. I'd be up for that. I can't see it happening, but I'd be up for it.
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    why amnesty Jose, if he has one year of his contract?

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I think they'd sign Jordan and trade someone else if it's true. Someone like Amir Johnson or Andrea Bargnani. Maybe they assume JV can play PF? I think it would be a fair assumption.
    If this is serious then they might be thinking as you say that JV might be better suited playing PF (his lack of weight but high agility and offense) ...at least to begin with. It would also mean a restacking of the deck chairs and trading what are decent assets like Davis or Amir and yes our favourite Bargs. Personally I think Jordan is better than Chandler at the same age. He shoots a bad pct. at FTs but hopefully he can improve at this. I couldnt care less about his offense otherwise.

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    I don't get this one either. When JV comes, then what?
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    Quote Balls of Steel wrote: View Post
    I don't get this one either. When JV comes, then what?
    Trade JV? lol

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    You guys have heard of depth right? You really think big Val is going to be playing 40 minutes a night the first couple years he's here?
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    I don`t think you can go wrong with getting Jordan. He is young and fits all the criteria we are looking for in a center,no? Marc Gasol would also fit this criteria and all of it would be a part of the rebuliding process. It gives us a season where they can legitimately evaluate Bargs as a PF and trade him or someone else (if he pans out as his new position). Neither of these young centers are going to get worse in the coming years and they could be used as trade bait if we decide we want to go with Valanciunas long-term. it makes sense to get one.

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    I don't see the problem with this. The kid is 23, he's a legit 5 and he would be a defensive anchor for this team for years. Amnesty Calderon and trade Bargnani. When Valanciunas comes over, he can play the 4. Besides, Colangelo likes his players who are interchangable - something Jordan and JV can be. We're trying to slowly become a defensive minded team - and Jordan fits the bill. Jordan is a nice piece who can "grow" with the young core on this team.

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    Quote KakashiPrince wrote: View Post
    why amnesty Jose, if he has one year of his contract?
    Because if you don't there isn't enough cap space to sign him.
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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    You guys have heard of depth right? You really think big Val is going to be playing 40 minutes a night the first couple years he's here?
    There are 48 minutes available at center. Jordan is going to end up playing probably around 30 minutes, which leaves 18 for Valanciunas. And that doesn't even take into consideration the garbage minutes that occur. The last lottery pick for the Raptors to play less than 20 mpg in his rookie season was Rafael Araujo. And I don't see Valanciunas do that. I'd look for him to play around 25 mpg, leaving only 23 mpg for Jordan. And there are obviously no minutes available at PF.

    There is such thing as too much depth. It's how players become disgruntled. Is that what we want to do? Have disgruntled players so we can say we've got two starting quality centers?

    IF Jordan signs with the Raptors, you pretty much have to trade one PF now and one later.

    Besides, considering the Raptors have NO starting quality SFs and a huge question mark at PG, aren't those areas that should be focused on first?
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    Default Jordan FTW

    I think JV is gonna take a couple of years to get his bearings in the NBA anyway, getting a guy like Jordan doesnt tie us up too much, we can trade him later cant we? I am sure he will be in demand worst comes to worst. Are we sure that we will need to amnesty someone to sign him? Don't we have like 7+ million available, that wont be enough?

    I think we do have a log jam at PF anyway need to trade one of our PF's, I think we knew that at the end of last year.

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    Quote SuperRaptor wrote: View Post
    I think JV is gonna take a couple of years to get his bearings in the NBA anyway, getting a guy like Jordan doesnt tie us up too much, we can trade him later cant we? I am sure he will be in demand worst comes to worst. Are we sure that we will need to amnesty someone to sign him? Don't we have like 7+ million available, that wont be enough?

    I think we do have a log jam at PF anyway need to trade one of our PF's, I think we knew that at the end of last year.
    Valanciunas will need a couple of seasons to get his bearings, but you'll still want him to play more than 20 mog. Something that won't be possible with Jordan starting at center.

    And I don't like signing a big name free agent with the intention of trading him later. It doesn't look very good, especially when so few big name free agents sign with Toronto.

    You think Jordan will go for less than $8 million? Have you seen what the other centers are asking for, and there's not a All Star among them. Jordan is a 23 year old highly athletic 7 footer who was 10th in the league in blocked shots and would have easily been #1 in field goal percentage had he made enough to qualify. And he's on the verge of a breakthrough season where he could very well become a top 10 center. Plus, he's a restricted free agent, so you'll have to offer him a contract so big the Clippers (who are high on him) won't want to match. Yes, I think they'll need more than $7+ million.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I think they'd sign Jordan and trade someone else if it's true. Someone like Amir Johnson or Andrea Bargnani. Maybe they assume JV can play PF? I think it would be a fair assumption.
    I don't think Valanciunas can play PF, i actually even think, he can't, it doesn't even make sense to try it. Trading one PF, doesn't make a loophole in this position yet.

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    Quote irgigi wrote: View Post
    I don't think Valanciunas can play PF, i actually even think, he can't, it doesn't even make sense to try it. Trading one PF, doesn't make a loophole in this position yet.
    I'm not big on the idea, but why don't you think Valanciunas can play PF? He's obviously got the length. He's probably got above average agility for the position.
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