Tue Dec 6th, 2011, 10:27 AM
That video brought back some great memories...I woke up the morning after they traded VC and I felt like I was hungover. My head hurt a little bit and I was almost afraid to tune in the Raps next game because I didn't know what it was going to look like.
That being said, there's no way in hell you bring him here. Besides the PR nightmare, he's toxic and ultimately destroyed his own possibilities along the way. We're having enough problems but there's the light at the end of the development tunnel. VC would have nothing to do with that. His ego was forged at a time when they were stressing the players over the game, and now that that damage has been done they're trying to go back the other way. No way. Not a chance in hell.
Tue Dec 6th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Tue Dec 6th, 2011, 11:34 AM
Raptors Republic Rookie
You know, Im one of those guys that hangs on to old stuff from 20 years ago. I still rock a hoody I bought when I was 12 (I'm 35 now).
Part of me wouldn't mind him back. I know it would put asses in the seats, that's for sure, and media would be crazy on the Raptors.
When you put it that way though, I'd have to agree with you. He wouldn't be a positive influence on the young guys. Never thought about it from that perspective.
When he wants to work hard, he's deadly. Just look at all the games he played against us (even up to last year).
I think he's more focused on his business right now than ball. Good point though....
Tue Dec 6th, 2011, 12:08 PM
Raptors Republic Superstar
I believe a lot of what transpired when Carter left was blown out of proportions. I do not believe for a second that he faked an injury or quit on the team. I do agree that he wanted to leave, but I don't believe he did anything close to what Carmelo did with Denver last year. The issue with Carter was more with management. They had a really special player and decided to rebuild instead of invest. If they truly wanted to rebuild, then they should have let Carter go. You don't rebuild when you have a special player on board after you already had a taste of success not to many years prior.
But forward a few years later - we all know what we get with Carter. I'm not sure if it's in his head or not, but he likes to play it safe. He avoids traffic and going to the rim. He relies on his jump shot which is wonky at best, and has stopped using the only gift he had going for him - his athleticism. Perhaps he's just trying to play as long as he can and so doesn't want to hurt his body.
Either way he would have no impact on the Raptors, and could possibly be a deteriment to someone like Derozan (who also relies heavily on his athleticism).
But the only reason I say no to Carter is not because of the way he left, it's because of the way he has been playing for the past few years.
It would be pretty funny though to see both Carter and Bosh on the same team again. I could only imagine what the boos would be like if he was signed by the Heat, and the Heat came to Toronto. They can really get the building going if they got TMAC as well.
Tue Dec 6th, 2011, 12:32 PM
Sorry but were you following the Raptors back then? I have to ask because its blatantly obvious that he did fake an injury and did tank games(he even admitted it after he left). You could see it in the footage, you could see it in the box scores and you could see in the rumors and comments from around the league. Nothing was blown out of proportion. He lacked professionalism and integrity at every stop to get his trade out of town. He didn't care who he hurt or offended. He had his mind set and everyone be damned if they were going to stop him.
There were even rumors that at the end of one game, just before he got traded, he told the opposing club what the Raptors were going to run coming out of a timeout.
Tue Dec 6th, 2011, 12:48 PM