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    Default Are we having 2 draft picks this year?

    Well all is in the title, I'm asking if we have another pick than our 1st round one. Thank you!

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    Yes, we have a second round pick according to nbadraft.net.

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    After we (hopefully) trade leandro barbosa maybe we'll have another

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    Barbosa is making me a bit crazy too, but we really struggle to score with our 2nd unit ... need someone there.

    -I'd love to package our 2n rounder with our first to move up - SINCE we're going to be too good for a top level 1st round pick.
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    Quote AJ360 wrote: View Post
    After we (hopefully) trade leandro barbosa maybe we'll have another
    How many rookies do you want on this team? Next step is to import a studish three or one who is already established, unless James Johnson miraculously develops into one. We got enough youth with Davis, DeRozan, Amir, and Jonas.

    Or maybe you're referring to acquiring more picks to trade them.

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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    How many rookies do you want on this team? Next step is to import a studish three or one who is already established, unless James Johnson miraculously develops into one. We got enough youth with Davis, DeRozan, Amir, and Jonas.

    Or maybe you're referring to acquiring more picks to trade them.
    Fully agree.

    Our (likely)Top-5 2012 pick will probably be starting (or playing big minutes) along with Jonas.
    Two Rooks playing significant minutes is enough, considering Demar will only be 23 years old, and Ed will only be 21(?).

    Unless we're looking for another Top 3 pick in 2013, I say we start looking for proven Assets, to surround our VERY young core.


    [Interesting Trivia] Last year, with a Starting Line up of Demar, Sonny, Bayless, Ed and Amir, the Raptors put out one of the Youngest Starting Lineups in the History of the NBA, with an Average Age of around 22yo.
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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    How many rookies do you want on this team? Next step is to import a studish three or one who is already established, unless James Johnson miraculously develops into one. We got enough youth with Davis, DeRozan, Amir, and Jonas.

    Or maybe you're referring to acquiring more picks to trade them.
    What about the PG position? I think the easiest way to fill that hole is to acquire a 2nd pick...unless we unexpectedly make a serious run at Deron Williams.
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    http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft I noticed that Quincy Miller isn't on there anymore.... any reason for this? If he is going to slip low enough and we do end up having a decent season in the w/l column then it would be nice to pick him up
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    Quote Jon_Wade wrote: View Post
    http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft I noticed that Quincy Miller isn't on there anymore.... any reason for this? If he is going to slip low enough and we do end up having a decent season in the w/l column then it would be nice to pick him up
    I see he is in 2013 as is McAdoo. Not sure why, as in they declared already they will stay an additional year or what, but there was a fair amount of bouncing back and forth last year. The down side is that most of the flippers, (if not all) did delay and stayed in school another year.

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    Quote Jon_Wade wrote: View Post
    http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft I noticed that Quincy Miller isn't on there anymore.... any reason for this? If he is going to slip low enough and we do end up having a decent season in the w/l column then it would be nice to pick him up
    The people at NBADRAFT move players from year to year based on what they expect them do or what their sources are telling them. In Miller's case, he hasn't jumped out to as hot of a start as some people predicted so they think there's a chance that he's back at Baylor next season to try and get himself back in the top 5 of a draft that should be less stacked than 2012. Nothing is set in stone however. Miller could still very easily end up in this year's draft class, and he could very well be back in the top five. A lot will change between now and June.
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    thanks for the clarification fellas
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    Quote Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    How many rookies do you want on this team? Next step is to import a studish three or one who is already established, unless James Johnson miraculously develops into one. We got enough youth with Davis, DeRozan, Amir, and Jonas.

    Or maybe you're referring to acquiring more picks to trade them.

    Well I'm thinking we'll likely be drafting a SF with our top pick one of MKG, Barnes or maybe Jones. If we acquire a later first round pick we could draft a PG like Kendall Marshall who will take over for Jose after his contract expires, since it seems as though Bayless will not be a long term solution at the point.

    Our line up next could look like this:

    PG, Jose/Kendall/Carter
    SG, Demar/filler
    SF, MKG/JJ/Kleiza
    PF, Bargs/ED
    C, JV/Amir/Mags

    Obviously there are some holes there and this doesn't account for any signings but going forward a lot of these players would have plenty of room to grow.

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    Quote Jon_Wade wrote: View Post
    http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft I noticed that Quincy Miller isn't on there anymore.... any reason for this? If he is going to slip low enough and we do end up having a decent season in the w/l column then it would be nice to pick him up
    The only way I would see having 3 rookies next year (JV, 2012 1st round pick, plus 1) would be if it was a PG. We would have a veteran PG (Calderon or a guy like Raymond Felton) and a rookie backup (Kabongo? I wish). I don't see a good rookie backup point guard much different than what Bayless has brought during the majority of his time in Toronto (yes, Bayless has shown flashes of brilliance but it will be nearly 2 seasons after this year with no consistency, to me that is rookie performance). Plus with a talented, promising rookie backup PG (like Kabongo) he can be groomed to take over the starting role and maybe a guy like Jose can evolve back in to the backup.

    Three rookies in the starting line up would be ridiculous. Three in an 8-9 man rotation with solid veterans around them (behind or in front), I could handle (next year: Jose, DD will be year 4, Bargnani year 7, Amir year 8, Kleiza. Then you would have ED and JJ - where do they fit? Are they better than the rooks? Then veterans like Butler and Magloire to round out the roster).


    Clearly some changes will be made before the start of next season. ED or Amir not playing is not beneficial, especially ED. Will they go? Will Bargnani go if he continues to play like this? Honestly, I hope not. If Bargnani could play like this, I would look to trade ED or Amir - and of those two probably ED.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    Fully agree.

    Our (likely)Top-5 2012 pick will probably be starting (or playing big minutes) along with Jonas.
    Two Rooks playing significant minutes is enough, considering Demar will only be 23 years old, and Ed will only be 21(?).

    Unless we're looking for another Top 3 pick in 2013, I say we start looking for proven Assets, to surround our VERY young core.


    [Interesting Trivia] Last year, with a Starting Line up of Demar, Sonny, Bayless, Ed and Amir, the Raptors put out one of the Youngest Starting Lineups in the History of the NBA, with an Average Age of around 22yo.
    ED is actually 2 months older than DD.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    ED is actually 2 months older than DD.
    Hilarious. Thanks Matt!
    Likely should have done a bit more looking around before posting that one. hahaha
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    we should trade barbosa and some cash money for a pick. I think Gary Forbes can provide a scoring punch off the bench.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    The only way I would see having 3 rookies next year (JV, 2012 1st round pick, plus 1) would be if it was a PG. We would have a veteran PG (Calderon or a guy like Raymond Felton) and a rookie backup (Kabongo? I wish). I don't see a good rookie backup point guard much different than what Bayless has brought during the majority of his time in Toronto (yes, Bayless has shown flashes of brilliance but it will be nearly 2 seasons after this year with no consistency, to me that is rookie performance). Plus with a talented, promising rookie backup PG (like Kabongo) he can be groomed to take over the starting role and maybe a guy like Jose can evolve back in to the backup.

    Three rookies in the starting line up would be ridiculous. Three in an 8-9 man rotation with solid veterans around them (behind or in front), I could handle (next year: Jose, DD will be year 4, Bargnani year 7, Amir year 8, Kleiza. Then you would have ED and JJ - where do they fit? Are they better than the rooks? Then veterans like Butler and Magloire to round out the roster).


    Clearly some changes will be made before the start of next season. ED or Amir not playing is not beneficial, especially ED. Will they go? Will Bargnani go if he continues to play like this? Honestly, I hope not. If Bargnani could play like this, I would look to trade ED or Amir - and of those two probably ED.

    A top 3 pick would benefit us but I don't think we are going to finish at the bottom this year. Kabongo/Marshall/Teague/Rivers are all lower in the draft anyway. This is why I think we have to really push for wins this season and see where our youngsters can take us. We keep our two rookies (Jonas, PG pick). The rest are all potential trades (including the second round pick) for a franchise player - preferably a wingman like Rudy Gay. Hell, I would be very happy with someone like Iguodala. Our cap space is not big enough nor is toronto attractive enough for the likes of Dwight Howard. If we can bring a big time player as free agent without offering Andrea or Calderon it would make us real contenders .

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    Quote draftedraptor wrote: View Post
    A top 3 pick would benefit us but I don't think we are going to finish at the bottom this year. Kabongo/Marshall/Teague/Rivers are all lower in the draft anyway. This is why I think we have to really push for wins this season and see where our youngsters can take us. We keep our two rookies (Jonas, PG pick). The rest are all potential trades (including the second round pick) for a franchise player - preferably a wingman like Rudy Gay. Hell, I would be very happy with someone like Iguodala. Our cap space is not big enough nor is toronto attractive enough for the likes of Dwight Howard. If we can bring a big time player as free agent without offering Andrea or Calderon it would make us real contenders .
    we aren't that good bro. We'll still be in the lottery and I'd look at someone like MKG or Miller

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    Hey, are we having 2 picks?

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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Hey, are we having 2 picks?
    Quote CB4 wrote: View Post
    Yes, we have a second round pick according to nbadraft.net.
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