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    8 - 9 pick and we choose Miller who ends up being a franchise player.

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    Expecting other bad teams to not improve is maybe being a bit pessimistic. How many of those bad teams will feel the need to do something trade wise to bring in a player who can help them with a playoff push? In other words, which teams have GM's that need to see their teams get better by seasons end? I would expect New Jersey, Cleveland and Detroit to make some moves, trading future picks for instance, for results now. It's what GMs do. I think TO holds the course and makes no moves to improve radically unless something crazy good comes along. In which case, who cares about the pick.

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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    At the end of the month, the Raps will be 11-8, I predict.
    My guess is 7-12 through January, that's 8-14 overall. From there it gets messy...

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    The sample size is definitely much too small to assume the team will continue to play .500 or even .400 basketball.

    It's impossible to not be excited about the improvements the team has shown thus far, but lets not get too far ahead of ourselves We almost beat the lowly world champs and a Magic team that is teetering on the brink. 2 wins over last years worst team in the league and a win over the stat-less Knicks (who also lost to the bobcats last night) is hardly earth-shattering.

    In the end, I think the raps improvements will prevent them from being bottom feeders, but won't come close to endangering their lotto pick.

    My guess; they pick from 5-8

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    Quote AJ360 wrote: View Post
    The sample size is definitely much too small to assume the team will continue to play .500 or even .400 basketball.

    It's impossible to not be excited about the improvements the team has shown thus far, but lets not get too far ahead of ourselves We almost beat the lowly world champs and a Magic team that is teetering on the brink. 2 wins over last years worst team in the league and a win over the stat-less Knicks (who also lost to the bobcats last night) is hardly earth-shattering.

    In the end, I think the raps improvements will prevent them from being bottom feeders, but won't come close to endangering their lotto pick.

    My guess; they pick from 5-8
    Amar'e did play last night though.

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    The lottery balls haven't been too kind to us recently, so maybe this year, regardless of our record, we will get lucky and hit the jackpot.
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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Also, I think our draft pick will be in the range of 12-16 ... few spots out of the playoffs, or just sneak in if other teams like Milwaukee and New Jersey pull themselves out of the race.
    That really means we just have to outlast the 76ers, Knicks, or Indiana down the stretch ... longshot, but not impossible.

    12-16 range picks could produce a rotation player like Terrence Jones, Kabongo, Kidd-Glichrist (my favourite).
    I think that there is very little chance that Kidd-Gilchrist lasts past the first 7-8 picks. I don't want any part of Terrence Jones... he seems like a head case and plays the same position as Davis and Johnson. Kabongo might be interesting later in the 1st round, but he has not looked like a lottery pick this year.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    8 - 9 pick and we choose Miller who ends up being a franchise player.
    I think 6-9 sounds about right. Miller would be great. MKG would also be a fine option, but I think he might not be available.

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    They'll be available most likely

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    Even if we don't get a lottery pick, we can still rebuild.

    Look at Portland. Look at their history of lottery picks.
    Look at Denver. They're a top 5 team in the West now despite not having since Carmelo.

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    I wonder if there's any chance of taking advantage of Washington's desperation, and prying Wall from their hands
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I wonder if there's any chance of taking advantage of Washington's desperation, and prying Wall from their hands
    I think that if they start giving players away it will be Blatche, McGee, and Nick Young. Wall seems to be a guy that gives a crap about winning, the other guys seem a little to stat happy.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Amar'e did play last night though.
    That's exactly why our win over the Knicks means little. Ever with their 'big 3' in the lineup they lost to the bawbcats.

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    imo the wizards entire starting lineup besides wall and Lewis are selfish scrubs. I feel sorry for the wizards but it's their fault for signing headcases like Blatche.

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    imo the wizards entire starting lineup besides wall and Lewis are selfish scrubs. I feel sorry for the wizards but it's their fault for signing headcases like Blatche.
    Jordan Crawford and Wall are the only good pieces on that team, for the long run.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Even if the Raptors do finish in the 7-10th from the bottom position, there are 3 factors to consider:

    1. ping-pong balls could move us into the top 3 (or down up to 3 spots... yikes)

    2. would be interesting analysis to figure out which of the teams above us in the likely draft position rankings are likely to target a SF, rather than all the PF/C/SG ranked highly (aka how many teams are true risks to take one of the stud SF we want)

    3. there's always a possibility to flip picks to move up just a couple spots, still allowing both teams to draft the player they really want (ie: trade Barbosa/Bayless for late 1st/early 2nd round pick at the deadline, which could be used to facilitate the swapping of picks to get our stud SF)
    I'd imagine BC sitting late into the wee hours contemplating all the possibilities. Bargs, Demar, Davis. Jonas...I think he's done fairly well at the draft.

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    Quote e2thed wrote: View Post
    Jordan Crawford and Wall are the only good pieces on that team, for the long run.
    ya your right about that. Vesely is basically a useless pick he doesn't bring anything they need.

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    Noooooooo we need a top 5 pick or even 10 so BC can trade up !!

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    ya your right about that. Vesely is basically a useless pick he doesn't bring anything they need.
    Vesely was the 6th pick in the draft, hasn't even played yet and you have already come to that conclusion...

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    why do you think he hasn't played yet?

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