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    Bargnani should still be the one to go, the three man rotation of Ed Amir and Val in the front court keeps me happy (lots of length, rebounding heart and hustle! every shift is an adrenaline boost from these guys!) and Bargnani's trade value is probably as high as its going to be through out his career. Trade bargnani while he's playing really well, get a real stud at the 3, and Im ecstatic!

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    why trade either? we have JV coming next year, and probably a good pick this year. unless a trade you cant say no to comes by that nets us a Star Pg/Sf, i say move AB

    C. JV/amir/gray/alibi
    PF. AB/ed/amir
    SF.draft and/or free agency
    SG. DD
    PG.?/calderon?/bayless/free agency

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    Default It has to be Batum

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    Right, and it's a good risk to take right now given that the Raptors aren't ready for the spotlight yet.

    I'm not sure what the Raptors go looking for but let me toss out a list of names to stir the pot.

    • Nicolas Batum
    • Danilo Gallinari
    • Chase Budinger
    • Al-Farouq Aminu
    • Dorell Wright
    Disclaimer: I'm not recommending any of these just yet, just looking for reactions.


    The Portland Trail Blazers forward Nicolas Batum is up for an extension and says that money won't be the ultimate factor in making his decision.

    Batum joined the set of Rip City Live on Comcast SportsNet Northwest, and said he's a basketball player first and playing time would be the main factor in signing an extension.
    The Blazers have until Jan. 25 to sign Batum to an extension, if an agreement is not reached by then, Batum will become a restricted free agent at season's end.
    Source: csnnw.com

    Of course he wants a lot more PT. He can see other examples around the league of young guys who were limited due to team depth, only to explode on a team that truly needed them. Batum is going to get paid whether it's in Portland or not. Batum isn't exactly close to legitimately contending in Portland given their current roster so staying to be competitive isn't really that big of a factor. He could come to a team like the Raptors for example and get huge minutes and as a key component to their success. If the Raptors can't get their wing in the draft or they opt for a PG then I could see Colangelo make a hard play for Batum. He brings perimeter scoring, he's long and athletic and he plays good defense. He's a breakout waiting to happen and the Blazer don't have the minutes to keep him happy it would seem(a little over 22 MPG so far this season).

    Then factor in that Oden will be an unrestricted free agent this coming off-season, Camby's deal expires at the end of the season, Thomas' deal expires at the end of the season and both are in the twilight of their careers right now anyway. The Blazers are in need of a young, capable big man to log minutes and either Amir or Ed would be an excellent option for them.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Source: csnnw.com

    Of course he wants a lot more PT. He can see other examples around the league of young guys who were limited due to team depth, only to explode on a team that truly needed them. Batum is going to get paid whether it's in Portland or not. Batum isn't exactly close to legitimately contending in Portland given their current roster so staying to be competitive isn't really that big of a factor. He could come to a team like the Raptors for example and get huge minutes and as a key component to their success. If the Raptors can't get their wing in the draft or they opt for a PG then I could see Colangelo make a hard play for Batum. He brings perimeter scoring, he's long and athletic and he plays good defense. He's a breakout waiting to happen and the Blazer don't have the minutes to keep him happy it would seem(a little over 22 MPG so far this season).

    Then factor in that Oden will be an unrestricted free agent this coming off-season, Camby's deal expires at the end of the season, Thomas' deal expires at the end of the season and both are in the twilight of their careers right now anyway. The Blazers are in need of a young, capable big man to log minutes and either Amir or Ed would be an excellent option for them.
    What do you think is a reasonable contract for Batum - forgetting about having to overpay to get him as RFA - just what do you think is a fair salary for him in comparison to the league.

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    I think they're also debating as to what to do with Gerald Wallace who can opt out of his contract at season's end, so that plays a bit part of what they'll do with Batum.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    What do you think is a reasonable contract for Batum - forgetting about having to overpay to get him as RFA - just what do you think is a fair salary for him in comparison to the league.

    Thaddeus Young commanded around $8.5M/yr over five years with no mightier a resume. I think Philly overpaid. I think $7M/yr is fair for Batum given his abilities, his age and upside. He might be had at less than that, I don't know but what I feel is that he could live up to a $7M/yr contract.

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    I wonder if the upcoming PF-heavy draft negatively affects Ed Davis's trade value; a lot of rebuilding teams might think they can do better holding onto even a mid-lottery pick rather than going after a guy like Davis. I think Davis is a better prospect than guys like Henson, Young, T. Jones, and Zeller, but a lot of teams might not see it that way. If it comes to draft day and we can flip Ed Davis for a pick that gets us Kabongo, I'd do it in a heartbeat, (and I think it could be a good trade for a team that has playing time for Ed, too).

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    Davis is a better prospect than most guys in this 2012 draft class. He was an absolute steal. He's still very young and he has real NBA experience. There is no guessing about how he can handle himself in the NBA, he's proven he can do it. There's less guessing with him than on most of those guys in the lotto. For that reason I feel teams in the lotto will still be interested.

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    Quote Doc Naismith wrote: View Post
    Call me crazy, but I think its still a little too premature to write off Ed just yet. Let him get a full season under his belt and some experience before we start proposing to ship him out. JMO!
    I don't think anyone is writing off big Eddy yet. Selling either Ed or Amir while their stock is high at the same time of a log jam can help spread the wealth to other weaker areas, such as the wing... maybe the point.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Thaddeus Young commanded around $8.5M/yr over five years with no mightier a resume. I think Philly overpaid. I think $7M/yr is fair for Batum given his abilities, his age and upside. He might be had at less than that, I don't know but what I feel is that he could live up to a $7M/yr contract.
    I think that is reasonable and along the lines of what I was thinking.

    Afflalo signed for a little over $8M per season. I think that is also comparable.

    Anything over $8M and I would be worried.

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    I think we'll just end up trading whoever gets us the most value. Being the youngest, and on his rookie deal, Ed makes the most sense today, to trade 7 - 12 months from now. Lot can change between now and then.

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    The point made about questioning likelihood of Ed Davis accepting a long term bench role is a good point. We know Amir is down for that but the jury is out on Ed. I just remember back to d-league when he was complaining about his hotel room. If you read into that you might say he seems to have strong expectations as to who he is as a professional and how he should be treated but then again it's not fair to go there on such limited info. His father Terry had no problems coming off the bench but Ed has more potential than Terry.

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