Free Agency 2012

[KingMaxwell47]

Jesus Christ what is people's obsession with Derrick Williams here

+1

[Miekenstien]

i would take williams in a second if the price wasn't crazy. he should end up a really good shooter and iso player.

[Chr1s1anL]

Jesus Christ what is people's obsession with Derrick Williams here

People here are fascinated with the unknown. Its why everybody here is in a hurry to annoint next SG(if we draft one) the starter. If DeRozan was a second year player on different team. Everybody here would be all over him and want him here. They know DeRozan so thiers no interest.

[torch19]

People here are fascinated with the unknown. Its why everybody here is in a hurry to annoint next SG(if we draft one) the starter. If DeRozan was a second year player on different team. Everybody here would be all over him and want him here. They know DeRozan so thiers no interest.

I agree. It's really difficult to follow so many teams in the league as much as we follow the Raptors. So generally, there would be an opinion generated off some players based on some highlights/games seen.

[Miekenstien]

People here are fascinated with the unknown. Its why everybody here is in a hurry to annoint next SG(if we draft one) the starter. If DeRozan was a second year player on different team. Everybody here would be all over him and want him here. They know DeRozan so thiers no interest.

I agree. It's really difficult to follow so many teams in the league as much as we follow the Raptors. So generally, there would be an opinion generated off some players based on some highlights/games seen.

if williams could be had for ed or amir wouldn't you do it? he would be an immediate upgrade at the 3 to what we have, he didn't have a horrible rookie year, came off the bench a couple times shooting lights out. is two years removed from being the best player in college ball. he is one of the few from last years draft that didn't artificially get bumped up from others dropping out. only barnes might have gone higher than him last year.

[torch19]

Yes. I would much rather have Derrick Williams than either of those two. But considering all of the factors you pointed out, I am expecting a big price to acquire him, one that would include at least a couple of our prospects and the draft pick #8. So in the end, I do not think he is worth gutting our core for.

Also, he is still a tweener to me. So my opinion, one that is anti-tweeners, is biased.

[Jon_Wade]

I know this is just a highlight mix but damn he can throw down!

[MangoKid]

Jesus Christ what is people's obsession with Derrick Williams here

It's eerily similar to your obsession with Burks.

[Nilanka]

If Minnesota didn't have Beasley on their roster, Williams would've likely been contending Irving for ROY.

[ceez]

It's eerily similar to your obsession with Burks.

Yeah but Burks is actually good

[Apollo]

Derrick Williams seems like he's going to be good to me. I don't know why the Raptors would want him though... He's destined to be a PF in my opinion.

[jimmie]

If Minnesota didn't have Beasley on their roster, Williams would've likely been contending Irving for ROY.

Being stuck behind Michael Beasley is hardly a resounding endorsement for Williams.

[Nilanka]

Being stuck behind Michael Beasley is hardly a resounding endorsement for Williams.

Beasley's a dumbass off the court, but there's no denying his talent level.

[Shantz]

Mayo stated he wants to play point guard going forward, and he'll certainly be looking for a deal that pays more than the $5.6 million he earned this season. Despite obvious limitations on the ball and inconsistent shooting, what Mayo might command could be too steep for the Grizzlies.

"It just keeps getting better and better," Mayo said, campaigning to stay in a Grizzlies uniform. "Why not stick around and finish it out and see where we can get?"

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...stions-remain/

Two things for those who are interested in Mayo:

1) He apparently wants to be a PG from here out
2) He is saying he wants to stay in Memphis

I don't really buy that he wants to stay in Memphis if he is basically saying that they are playing him out of position.

I was interested in him for the right price in order to come off the bench, but I have no interest in him if he is desiring to be a starting PG.

[ceez]

enough about Mayo lets talk about trading for Bledsoe

dude did some things in that series. i was impressed.

[thead]

enough about Mayo lets talk about trading for Bledsoe

dude did some things in that series. i was impressed.

a big plus 1 to that. There is something about him that screams solid.

[Hello]

a big plus 1 to that. There is something about him that screams solid.

I was thinking about a simple Davis for Bledsoe trade last summer since the Clippers needed a back Pf, but they got Reggie who seems to be a good locker room presence for them. I think he may have improved his price with his play in the playoffs though.

[draftedraptor]

I hope all these calls for a Mayo/ Demar swap goes away now. I don't care if Mayo has better handles.what you do with it matters more to me. Demar is the player with more upside.


Bledsoe's numbers may not radically improve even if he is given extended minutes. But he is a quick and composed point guard who is definitely worth a shot.

[Mapko]

vince has to be one of the biggest NOs for us. we shouldn't be his last contract. he lost his right to play on our team. playing for the raptors is a privilege not a "if no one else will pay". when someone burns a bridge you don't build it back up for them. i would feel like an abused wife if he comes back "it's going to be different this time" "i've learned a lot about quitting" "i've changed" "one more chance and i'll show you who i really am".

remember the awesome feeling you had when he did the spinning windmill dunk and then mcgrady drop passed him the ball? he was all "raptor for life" we were all "canada, fuck yeah" and then after hakeem......fast forward to the greatest center toronto ever had, alonzo mourning and then a kick right in the dick. stomp stomp stomp. ow our collective balls, 10 years of suckage. fuck vince, mourning and kenny anderson

Vince quit on Raptors PERIOD.
You want a quitter to be first Raptor whose number is retired?
It is not about holding a grudge. VC burned the bridge.

[Mapko]

+1 again.

DeRozan can't create something out of nothing but give him some space via screen or a lane via ball movement with a couple of shooters to ensure the lane doesn't get closed by the help and he can definitely create something. If the defense cheats on the screen or closes out to take away the drive, he does have a good mid-range game.

Which reminds me.... a lot of players in today's game can drive and shoot the three but they do not have a mid range game. I give DeRozan as much grief as anyone but a good mid-range game is a valuable skill and there are a lot of teams out there who have players lacking the skill.

Lets look at it from a different angle. It is not about "who is better" but can JJ Redick "push" DD?
Maybe a bit of competition for a starter & 2nd guy gets to be a prime option with second unit