Free Agency 2012

[thead]

That's not "there you go." You said 37% as a starter; is that number wrong or where does it come from?

Now you give two years of his stats and leave out the worst years, including last year. I'd say the last year normally should be the most important so why leave that one out?

The fact is that he is a career below average threepointshooter (even shooting 30% last year) while, during his time in Oklahoma he took over 3,5(!) per game. That's just terrible when you shoot them that bad.

I left out last year because he was a backup on a new team with a new coach in a new system oriented to defense oh and also his heart was about to rupture

[thead]

Wait, so you want to trade a 4th year Derozan for another rookie Derozan to teach all over again?

Well we are a glorified feeder/farm team after all

[Soft Euro]

I left out last year because he was a backup on a new team with a new coach in a new system oriented to defense oh and also his heart was about to rupture

He started 49 games with the Thunder before he was traded. How did his heart condition affect his play?

[ceez]

Isnt it usually a degenerative thing? Anyways I'm with Mango, no thanks. Any medical red flag is a automatic no-go for me.

[charlesnba23]

How 'bout Courtney Lee?

[stefan5301]

if we could manage to wrestle courtney lee and dragic away from houston, get batum or draft barnes or MKG, i'd be one extremely happy camper.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Wait, so you want to trade a 4th year Derozan for another rookie Derozan to teach all over again?

Trade a starter who has suspect handles, no outside shot and is about to get a big payday, for a rookie who will be a much cheaper 2nd unit player next season, who's got an excellent long-range shooting stroke? ummmm yes, exactly. AK47 and Mayo would start, allowing Beal to develop on the 2nd unit with lowered expectations and much less pressure, on a rookie-scale contract for the next few years. Absolutely.

[Nilanka]

Trade a starter who has suspect handles, no outside shot and is about to get a big payday, for a rookie who will be a much cheaper 2nd unit player next season, who's got an excellent long-range shooting stroke? ummmm yes, exactly. AK47 and Mayo would start, allowing Beal to develop on the 2nd unit with lowered expectations and much less pressure, on a rookie-scale contract for the next few years. Absolutely.

Plus, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that Beal (in terms of SG skills) is already more developed than DeRozan. Beal can shoot, pass, dribble, and rebound well.

[ceez]

Can we please stop talking about AK47 like its a thing it's making me nauseous.

[Matt52]

Plus, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that Beal (in terms of SG skills) is already more developed than DeRozan. Beal can shoot, pass, dribble, and rebound well.

Don't forget he has the tools to play solid D as well - quick, strong, and long wingspan.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Can we please stop talking about AK47 like its a thing it's making me nauseous.

Why no love for AK47? I certainly don't think he's a superstar, but he'd be a veteran with a good work ethic, high bbiq, decent defender and good outside shooter... all of which BC/DC said they were looking for. I wouldn't suggest him as the answer to all the Raptors woes, but I think he would be a decent piece of the puzzle to add, especially if he comes for 2/3 years @ around $7-8M per season. I'm curious why you would disagree...

[Nilanka]

My only concern with Ivan Drago is his proneness to injury. All other things considered, he seems like a good fit.

[ceez]

Why no love for AK47? I certainly don't think he's a superstar, but he'd be a veteran with a good work ethic, high bbiq, decent defender and good outside shooter... all of which BC/DC said they were looking for. I wouldn't suggest him as the answer to all the Raptors woes, but I think he would be a decent piece of the puzzle to add, especially if he comes for 2/3 years @ around $7-8M per season. I'm curious why you would disagree...

he's just way past his prime. he didn't even play in the nba last season, which is puzzling if he's such a good commodity. he's just looking for a payday at this point, and while i don't blame him (C.R.E.A.M.) thats not whats in our best interests. the last i remember watching him he was pretty meh offensively. i'd rather WAY overpay for Batum or Chandler than spend 7-8 mil for a declining 30 year old with career averages of 12 and 5.

[Nilanka]

Didn't he choose to stay in Russia because of the lockout? I don't think it's an indication of his diminishing skills. It's a similar situation as Wilson Chandler and Sonny Weems.

[MangoKid]

If we get Ilyasova, I would be a happy camper. Anything else we do would be gravy.

[Soft Euro]

he's just way past his prime. he didn't even play in the nba last season, which is puzzling if he's such a good commodity. he's just looking for a payday at this point, and while i don't blame him (C.R.E.A.M.) thats not whats in our best interests. the last i remember watching him he was pretty meh offensively. i'd rather WAY overpay for Batum or Chandler than spend 7-8 mil for a declining 30 year old with career averages of 12 and 5.

I already explained why he didn't play in the nba; it's got absolutely nothing to do with nobody wanting him on their team (except maybe not for the money he wanted).

[ceez]

which is a pretty big thing?

[NoPropsneeded]

If we get Ilyasova, I would be a happy camper. Anything else we do would be gravy.

where would we play him? don't think he could play the 3

[LBF]

Don't forget he has the tools to play solid D as well - quick, strong, and long wingspan.

Don't forget he's also got experience at an NBA level.

[LBF]

My only concern with Ivan Drago is his proneness to injury. All other things considered, he seems like a good fit.

I must crush you!!!