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  • you don't see how having two lights out shooters on the wings and PF that can pass the ball would make for a very potent offense and having Pietrus Chandler and AK47 makes it very difficult for other teams to score. I think Redick is a true SG and ready for the spot light
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    • thead wrote: View Post
      you don't see how having two lights out shooters on the wings and PF that can pass the ball would make for a very potent offense and having Pietrus Chandler and AK47 makes it very difficult for other teams to score. I think Redick is a true SG and ready for the spot light
      lol reddick is a bench player that comes in to hit some three's thats it. DeRozan is a much better player than Reddick and he's still improving, the stupidest thing you could possibly do is trade him and start a guy like reddick. I'm sorry but i would never want you as our GM

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      • Redick is a starting SG - Wilson Chandler can step in for AK47 after a few years
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        • As far as I know my application is still pending for the GM position.

          Everyone is in la la land about what we can do to improve the team. These are actual steps we COULD take.

          I've watched a lot of Redick this season he is no longer just a catch and shoot 3pt specialist.

          DeMar DeRozan is better in a lot of categories. But you don't build individuals you build a team. JJ Redick on the wing does a lot for floor spacing. AK47 on the other wing...same thing...Wilson Chandler off the bench...same thing.

          Bargnani was on pace to average 23 and 7 before his leg blew up. Imagine what he could do if the wings kept the defense honest. And if Calderon or Nash or Marshall are your PG...you are in for a very potent offense. We can dream all we like about Anthony Davis, James Harden, OJ Mayo etc...but we should also be as realistic as possible.
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          • thead wrote: View Post
            you don't see how having two lights out shooters on the wings and PF that can pass the ball would make for a very potent offense and having Pietrus Chandler and AK47 makes it very difficult for other teams to score. I think Redick is a true SG and ready for the spot light
            This team will be pretty easy to defend. There is almost no dribble penetration which means all penetration needs to be done by passing. But this team lacks the high quality low post players needed to make that kind of offense possible.

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            • thead wrote: View Post
              you don't see how having two lights out shooters on the wings and PF that can pass the ball would make for a very potent offense and having Pietrus Chandler and AK47 makes it very difficult for other teams to score. I think Redick is a true SG and ready for the spot light
              Think for the future my friend. We're gonna be right back in this spot we are in now in 2-3 years once this happens.

              Calderon and Nash are two point guards at the edge of their primes, who at some point will break down. You have to let a very potential ridden team grow.

              PG - Calderon, Bayless, (Lillard/Marshall)
              SG - Derozan, Forbes, (Beal/Lamb)
              SF - J. Johnson, (MKG/Barnes/PJ3), Kleiza
              PF - Bargnani, Davis, A. Johnson
              C - Valanciunas, Gray, Magloire

              ^ This team is good enough for the 8 seed, and will only continue to get better. With this team, an 8th spot in the draft, and 12$ million in cap space. We could do better than Redick starting at shooting guard.

              What you can try and do is trade up or out of the draft with the 8th spot. Pursue the free agency in O.J Mayo, Ersan Ilyasova, or Steve Nash. Amnesty/trade Amir/Ed and Kleiza. There are plenty of options to look at, which can create a much better team than you stated.
              Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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              • Soft Euro wrote: View Post
                This team will be pretty easy to defend. There is almost no dribble penetration which means all penetration needs to be done by passing. But this team lacks the high quality low post players needed to make that kind of offense possible.
                Redick and AK47 can't create their own shot, and are no where near the talent JJ & Derozan are. AK47 is a better three-point shooting James Johnson, but older.
                Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                • DeRozan vs Redick

                  3pt% 26% 42%
                  FG% 41% 43%
                  FT% 81% 91%
                  PPG 16.7 11.6
                  RPG 3.0 2.3
                  APG 2.0 2.5

                  Redick played on average 8 less minutes a game
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                  • your post is at least realistic (in reference to RaptorsReuben)
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                    • remember if we don't land Chandler, Redick would be a fantastic 6th man a role Bayless isn't keen on playing
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                      • thead wrote: View Post
                        remember if we don't land Chandler, Redick would be a fantastic 6th man a role Bayless isn't keen on playing
                        Redick bench player? Yes. Starter over Derozan? .......
                        Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                        • thead wrote: View Post
                          DeRozan vs Redick

                          3pt% 26% 42%
                          FG% 41% 43%
                          FT% 81% 91%
                          PPG 16.7 11.6
                          RPG 3.0 2.3
                          APG 2.0 2.5

                          Redick played on average 8 less minutes a game
                          Redick has more of a liability than to Derozan. Especially defensively. He isn't much better defensively than Derozan is, and Derozan is a solid NBA scorer. Derozan is much more athletic, quicker, stronger, and he has the physical tools which Redick doesn't. He is a 3 point specialist, but other than that, I wouldn't find any other strengths besides shooting. He is a good system player, but that doesn't win you games, you need a player on the wing that can create, and bring in close defensive attention. Ray Allen is a 3 point specialist, but he is a very good ball-handler and passer which gives him more opportunities to shoot, and his teammate Paul Pierce -another wing player- is very good at creating shots for himself and for others.

                          You can have 5 system players start, great at being a good team, but you can only go so far with a systematic team. You need a guy that can step up and put you over the hump, and unfortunately, Redick and AK47 just don't do that. Both Derozan and JJ have potential to do it, and have done it in the past.
                          Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                          • RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
                            Redick has more of a liability than to Derozan. Especially defensively. He isn't much better defensively than Derozan is, and Derozan is a solid NBA scorer. Derozan is much more athletic, quicker, stronger, and he has the physical tools which Redick doesn't. He is a 3 point specialist, but other than that, I wouldn't find any other strengths besides shooting. He is a good system player, but that doesn't win you games, you need a player on the wing that can create, and bring in close defensive attention. Ray Allen is a 3 point specialist, but he is a very good ball-handler and passer which gives him more opportunities to shoot, and his teammate Paul Pierce -another wing player- is very good at creating shots for himself and for others.

                            You can have 5 system players start, great at being a good team, but you can only go so far with a systematic team. You need a guy that can step up and put you over the hump, and unfortunately, Redick and AK47 just don't do that. Both Derozan and JJ have potential to do it, and have done it in the past.
                            We were talking about Redick a few pages back.

                            http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...l=1#post129985

                            I disagree Redick is not a solid defensive player. He didn't play for Stan Van Gundy until he showed he could play defense... and not just play it, play it well. You don't need incredible athleticism to play great defense - Bruce Bowen and Shane Battier come immediately to mind of great defenders who I would not consider uber-athletic. For SVG to say the following quote he must have real faith in you on both sides of the ball:
                            "J.J. is always prepared. He always plays at a very high energy level." Van Gundy says. "You always know what you're going to get, and for a coach, that's a great feeling."
                            SVG is a huge whiner but a great coach. He doesn't hand out praise like candy on Hallowe'en.

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                            • I really think with the type of team we are trying to build we have to stretch the floor. DeRozan and Johnson do not keep defenses honest. We need a lights out shooter at the two or the three. Both would be even better
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                              • the only valid point is that DeRozan can drive...but even his handles are suspect. How many times did we ever see DeRozan break down his defender. A lot more often you saw him come off a hard screen.
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