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    Default Steve Nash is new Canada Basketball GM. So Awesome.

    Nash to become Canada GM

    Steve Nash has made his first big basketball decision of the summer, agreeing to become general manager of the senior men's national team for Canada Basketball.

    Nash, who will be a highly coveted NBA free agent this summer, will be introduced his new role at a press conference on Tuesday in Toronto. The arrangement will be similar to the one Wayne Gretzky had with Hockey Canada in advance of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake.

    "Obviously I love the program," Nash told ESPN.com. "It was a huge part of my development as a player. Going to the Olympics (in 2000) was the best experience of my career.

    "So if I can help other Canadians experience that, it would be pretty amazing. I want to try to lend my hand to help develop our system and change the image and reputation of this country internationally and be a resource for as many of our good, young kids as possible."

    Long known back home as "Captain Canada" after leading a team of unknowns to within one win of the medal round in Sydney in 2000, Nash hasn't played for his country since the qualifying rounds for the 2004 Olympics in Athens.

    As part of his new job, Nash will have a strong say in the hiring of Canada's next coach. Former Toronto Raptors coach Jay Triano, who was in charge for the Sydney Olympic, is regarded as an overwhelming favorite for the post after he completes his summer stint as an assistant to Mike Krzyzewski with Team USA at the London Olympics.

    There is quiet optimism that Canada's basketball fortunes could be on the rise after Tristan Thompson and Cory Joseph were first-round picks in the 2011 NBA draft. Nash optimistically thinks that the number of Canadians in the NBA could rise to double digits "in the next five years."

    "Maybe the timing of this will seem a little bit odd because I'm still playing (in the NBA), but this is about trying to impact a bunch of kids, trying to be a good resource and a source of some good. We have a lot of developing talent in our country and I'm excited to help them," Nash said.

    Nash will be assisted in the job by former Olympic teammate Rowan Barrett, who will run day-to-day operations as assistant GM. The next major competition for Canada's national team isn't until the summer of 2013, when it will try to qualify for the world championships, which FIBA is rebranding as the World Cup.

    As for his forthcoming return to free agency in July for the first time since the summer of 2004, Nash said: "I've been so busy with this that I haven't had much of a chance to start thinking about it. In the coming weeks, I'll definitely start to think about what I'm going to do."

    Nash, 38, told ESPN.com last month that he wants to play in the NBA for at least three more seasons. He's also said in recent weeks that he has not ruled out re-signing with the Phoenix Suns, but intends to test the open market.

    Suns owner Robert Sarver, meanwhile, told Phoenix radio station KTAR-AM last week: "If the situation's right, both parties would like to continue working together."

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    Well now no one can say he's not involved with the Program ... he's running the show!!
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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Oh the rumours we'll hear for the next 2 months.

    Bring on the truth! July 11th, 2012
    When I read these rumours I always wonder: what is Nash's connection to Toronto? Cause he's Canadian? Hate to break it to my central Canadian friends but most people outside of Toronto have zero desire to live and work there. He's a west coast kid, played college in the West, played pro in Dallas and Phoenix and lives in NYC. Honestly, I see the chances of Nash in Toronto about the same as the chances of Nash in Milwaukee or Portland: slim and none. And slim left the building.

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    When I read these rumours I always wonder: what is Nash's connection to Toronto? Cause he's Canadian? Hate to break it to my central Canadian friends but most people outside of Toronto have zero desire to live and work there. He's a west coast kid, played college in the West, played pro in Dallas and Phoenix and lives in NYC. Honestly, I see the chances of Nash in Toronto about the same as the chances of Nash in Milwaukee or Portland: slim and none. And slim left the building.
    He has a lot of personal connections in the organization.... well, three:

    1) Colangelo
    2) Triano
    3) McKechnie (and he could be the biggest one).

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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    When I read these rumours I always wonder: what is Nash's connection to Toronto? Cause he's Canadian? Hate to break it to my central Canadian friends but most people outside of Toronto have zero desire to live and work there. He's a west coast kid, played college in the West, played pro in Dallas and Phoenix and lives in NYC. Honestly, I see the chances of Nash in Toronto about the same as the chances of Nash in Milwaukee or Portland: slim and none. And slim left the building.
    The only connection is that Toronto has a team and the rest of Canada doesn't. I agree it's a pipe dream but don't act like he'd do it just for love of the West Coast. He did host an all star game here a couple of summers ago.

    BTW the rest of the country need to up and realize that they are the ignorant ones. Come to Toronto, move here, work here and enjoy it here. We'd love to have you. Just leave all that stupid, BS, Tdot hate at the curb. I've been from coast to coast to coast and the most amazing thing is how much vitriol there is towards Toronto from people who've never been here. It's not like this is some giant welfare state sucking up all your tax dollars (ahem, Québec, ahem) or even a tiny one sucking up whats left (ahem, Maritimes, ahem).

    For the record I grew up in Québec and have family from NFLD and a bunch more in Cape Breton. I love almost everything East of Hull.
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    Quote slaw wrote: View Post
    When I read these rumours I always wonder: what is Nash's connection to Toronto? Cause he's Canadian? Hate to break it to my central Canadian friends but most people outside of Toronto have zero desire to live and work there. He's a west coast kid, played college in the West, played pro in Dallas and Phoenix and lives in NYC. Honestly, I see the chances of Nash in Toronto about the same as the chances of Nash in Milwaukee or Portland: slim and none. And slim left the building.
    The Knicks are not going to get him because they're pretty much stuck with Lee at this point. Dolan isn't going to let thate marketing sensation go because it's lost opportunity and it means the alienation of a bunch of fans who otherwise might not care about the Knicks.

    On top of that Matt makes a good point. Nash does have good connections to the franchise.

    I'll go further as well. Nash has a strong connection to D'Antoni. Do you think he's going to want to go team up with Camelo Anthony given the move he pulled with D'Antoni? Anthony's nickname should be "Classless", not "Melo". There was nothing Melo about what went on in NYC. D'Antoni isn't exactly going to give the Knicks a strong endorsement after what happened there. On top of that the Knicks have shown little to no loyalty to PGs in the past three years. Nash would be stupid to go play for the Knicks. I'd place my money on him playing for the Nets before the Knicks and I'm not about to do that either.

    Finally, this is not a pipe dream. Nash has said many times he's not going to go chasing championships like the Glove did. He seems to get the concept that riding coattails doesn't buy much respect. He's marches to the beat of his own drum and don't discredit his longing to come home. Don't discredit his love for his country. Don't discredit the truck load of cash money Colangelo probably has waiting on standby.

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    I don't think Nash is going to have a huge impact on attracting Canadian talent as we may think. I feel that the young talent coming up right now have already shown a commitment to playing for Canada in junior competitions. The young guys are excited about the team when they play, and have achieved success, and that is what will keep them involved.

    Don't get me wrong, Nash is a great addition to the program, he will give the casual fan a figure head to look up to and will be a voice in the media. Steve has proven to be a solid business mind, and this will be a big plus as well. He is very well rounded, not just a basketball guy. I wish him great success in his new role.

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    maybe his first step in helping the PR of Basketball Canada would be to help with the website. Three hours after the announcement and not a sniff of it on their site. Maybe they sent out a telegram.

    http://www.basketball.ca/

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    Imagine the pick and rolls with Nash and Val, that would be some epic shit.

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    BTW...also a positive (and semi realistic?) look at the raps appeal for Nash courtesy of Mr Chisolm
    http://tsn.ca/blogs/tim_chisholm/?id=395383

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    BTW...also a positive (and semi realistic?) look at the raps appeal for Nash courtesy of Mr Chisolm
    http://tsn.ca/blogs/tim_chisholm/?id=395383
    You beat me to it Jclaw

    Here are some key sections from the article above:

    Let's make this clear right now: Nash won't win a ring in Toronto. At 38, he simply doesn't have enough years left in his body to make that journey. However, he could take a young and intriguing roster from his home country and bring them back to prominence, rapidly accelerating the growth of several players in the process, while also earning a salary at the high-end of his market value. The Raptors are one of the few teams that are both in a position to offer Nash the 3-year/$30-million deal that figures to be his asking price while also being motivated to offer it. Heck, the dollars he'd bring back to the team in terms of ticket and merchandise sales alone would almost be enough to justify such a contract for Toronto given Nash's popularity in Canada, leaving his tremendous on-court benefits as a nice added bonus. There is also no doubt that the Raptors would be motivated to offer him a lifeline to a career in management after the NBA, too, as his ties to Bryan Colangelo and now Canada Basketball would make such a transition an obvious addendum to any offer with the Raptors.

    And not that this matters to Nash, but there is also the fact that while he would be welcomed in several other NBA markets, he would be adored in Toronto and Canada. While other teams would see him as a missing piece to put them over the top (coupled with all of the pressure that comes along with such a role), in Toronto he'd simply be revered for being exactly what he is: Canada's greatest basketball player suiting up for Canada's lone NBA franchise. Toronto can't offer him a path to a ring, but that doesn't mean they don't have anything to offer.

    It also helps that his estimated asking price falls perfectly in line with what the Raptors could free-up if they amnestied Jose Calderon, their current starting point guard, so acquiring Nash would not demand a sacrifice in some other area of offseason roster improvement, like netting a starting-caliber small forward. If they nab Nash, they literally replace Calderon with him, if they don't they keep Calderon and the rest of their plans continue on unabated.
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    And plus Nash himself can attract some free agents, like Shannon Brown etc.

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    I can see the logic in Dallas...but if the Mav's are reloading, do they want 3 yrs at the end of Nash's career or 6 yrs at the prime of D-Will's? But Cuban's not the kind of guy who would take a pass on Nash, is he?

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    Quote Jclaw wrote: View Post
    I can see the logic in Dallas...but if the Mav's are reloading, do they want 3 yrs at the end of Nash's career or 6 yrs at the prime of D-Will's? But Cuban's not the kind of guy who would take a pass on Nash, is he?
    I think the idea of Nash to Dallas is if they swing and miss on Williams.

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    Quote WJF wrote: View Post
    I don't think Nash is going to have a huge impact on attracting Canadian talent as we may think. I feel that the young talent coming up right now have already shown a commitment to playing for Canada in junior competitions. The young guys are excited about the team when they play, and have achieved success, and that is what will keep them involved.
    Agreed. Mcdonalds All Americans like Thompson, Joseph, Wiggins, Bennett, Birch and Kabongo have all put in plenty of time for the national program. Unless Rautins' reputation really is that bad, there's no reason to assume they weren't going to continue with the senior squad at some point.

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    I think Nash is the kind of player who thinks about his legacy. What impact has he had, can he have, and what does he want to be remembered for.

    How much does he care about a ring? I am sure he would love to have one, but I doubt if it is the number one thing on his mind. You can't take away consecutive MVP awards by saying "Yeah, but how many championships has he won?"

    He may think in terms of what kind of an impact can he have on basketball in Canada, if he is playing on, and finishes his career on Canada's basketball team.

    He may think about young fans being in a position to cheer on a significant Canadian player on the Raptors. He may want to be in a position to influence young Canadian athletes to look at basketball as something they can aspire to. He has already accepted a position where his primary goal will be to encourage the best basketball players in the country to play for their national team.

    Given the money being otherwise equal, he may see helping Canada get into the medal round at the Olympics as a far more significant achievement than winning a ring on a team that he rented himself out to. He may see the task of bringing the Raptors back to relevancy as a far greater accomplishment than winning a ring on one of the 3-4 stacked teams in large markets that he would have to go to. As far as that goes, being a bit player on a stacked team doesn't seem like that great of an accomplishment. More like being along for the ride. That doesn't sound like Steve Nash to me. But what do I know.

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    We can only surmise as to what Nash is thinking.

    There is no doubt this is a positive step for basketball in Canada. Playing with the raptors is the next best thing he can do to to achieve his stated goals as the lead man of basketball Canada.

    The case for Steve Nash to the Raptors is growing stronger.

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    Maybe we should already buy the wheelchair we need to drive Nash and his troubled back to the old people's home after games.

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    Maurizio hires Nash. Nash rehires Triano. Nash comes to play for the Raptors. The circle is complete

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    Quote Soft Euro wrote: View Post
    Maybe we should already buy the wheelchair we need to drive Nash and his troubled back to the old people's home after games.
    LOL! He ended up playing 62 out of the 66 games in this shortened season with an average of 31:36 mpg. I'd be curious to know how much pain he was in playing all those minutes. My guess is that with his current workout program that he no longer has back issues - but that's a secret he would never reveal in public.

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    LOL! He ended up playing 62 out of the 66 games in this shortened season with an average of 31:36 mpg. I'd be curious to know how much pain he was in playing all those minutes. My guess is that with his current workout program that he no longer has back issues - but that's a secret he would never reveal in public.
    My only concern is that without the favourable climate of Phoenix and that nitrogen freeze machine they (and a few other NBA teams) have, his recovery time and longevity may not be the same. It's possible that his age catches is up to him a lot sooner in the harsh Toronto (and eastern conference) climate. There's a reason the elderly retire to warmer, dryer climate areas (ie: Nash & Hill)!

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