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    "Unrestricted free agent point guard Goran Dragic is now hoping for a nice payday from Dallas after the Mavs whiffed on Williams. Source says Dragic was given a five-year, $40 million offer from Houston but told the Rockets he wanted to continue testing the market (i.e. to get even more). Where Deron Williams went was a major factor, so they were waiting for that domino to fall. It's unclear how hard Dallas may go after Steve Nash now as well if he doesn't take Toronto's deal or New York doesn't miraculously land him, though I have a hard time seeing Mavs owner Mark Cuban eat into his cap space too much for Nash. He's been in big picture mode for a minute here, it would seem. "

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    This site may explode overnight. It's been fun.

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    "Unrestricted free agent point guard Goran Dragic is now hoping for a nice payday from Dallas after the Mavs whiffed on Williams. Source says Dragic was given a five-year, $40 million offer from Houston but told the Rockets he wanted to continue testing the market (i.e. to get even more). Where Deron Williams went was a major factor, so they were waiting for that domino to fall. It's unclear how hard Dallas may go after Steve Nash now as well if he doesn't take Toronto's deal or New York doesn't miraculously land him, though I have a hard time seeing Mavs owner Mark Cuban eat into his cap space too much for Nash. He's been in big picture mode for a minute here, it would seem. "
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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    I think breaking Dirk's knees is a better strategy. Why would Nash want to go there if Nowitzki was injured? Plus he would never see it coming, where as Cuban I'm sure has a bodyguard.
    lol good point. Dirk is so tall he'd probably never see it coming anyways.

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    Deron is resigning with the nets, news is a lot sooner than they were expecting. should hear from nash in the next day or two.

    i have a bad feeling :/
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    oh hey i missed a page there
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    Landry Fields... Can someone give me some insight on why this signing was done? Was it so that NY would have to choose between Fields and matching the offer, or signing Nash?!

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    Landry Fields... Can someone give me some insight on why this signing was done? Was it so that NY would have to choose between Fields and matching the offer, or signing Nash?!
    Not exactly. It's been talked about elsewhere, but if Fields signs an offer sheet, the Knicks can't include him in a sign-and-trade with Phoenix (regardless of whether they match or not), and he's basically the only useful sign-and-trade asset they have. Without a sign-and-trade, the most the Knicks can offer Nash is about three million.

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    Landry Fields... Can someone give me some insight on why this signing was done? Was it so that NY would have to choose between Fields and matching the offer, or signing Nash?!
    I am not 100% sure, but I am pretty sure the only way Nash ends up in NYK is by sign and trade (the contract they would be able to offer him would be too small without the S&T). Fields is an asset they would have had to trade to get Nash. By offering him that contract, we forced NYK into a corner. If they matched they could get Fields back (at a backloaded contract they did not want) but would not be able to trade him because they matched. If they did not match (which is what they did) then they can not trade for Nash still.

    So, pretty much, BC took Fields and Nash from the Knicks. Now Lin is thinking of signing with Houston (maybe because one of his good friends Fields is not going to be on the team, and he can not be mentored by Nash).

    So pretty much, BC made the Knicks his bitch.

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    Quote octothorp wrote: View Post
    Not exactly. It's been talked about elsewhere, but if Fields signs an offer sheet, the Knicks can't include him in a sign-and-trade with Phoenix (regardless of whether they match or not), and he's basically the only useful sign-and-trade asset they have. Without a sign-and-trade, the most the Knicks can offer Nash is about three million.
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    I am not 100% sure, but I am pretty sure the only way Nash ends up in NYK is by sign and trade (the contract they would be able to offer him would be too small without the S&T). Fields is an asset they would have had to trade to get Nash. By offering him that contract, we forced NYK into a corner. If they matched they could get Fields back (at a backloaded contract they did not want) but would not be able to trade him because they matched. If they did not match (which is what they did) then they can not trade for Nash still.

    So, pretty much, BC took Fields and Nash from the Knicks. Now Lin is thinking of signing with Houston (maybe because one of his good friends Fields is not going to be on the team, and he can not be mentored by Nash).

    So pretty much, BC made the Knicks his bitch.
    Thank you guys. Dirty damn move BC..... I love it! Haha!

    So, at best, we could have both Fields and Nash. At worst, we only sign Fields at the 20$ million 3 years?

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    Here's a view from the Dallas paper. On the one hand, we have to be scared as they now have a Dwill size cushion in their cap space and their lineup is decidedly point guard free. On the other hand, apparently they won't match Terry's offer from Boston for fear of hampering future flexibility. Not sure what to take from this.

    http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/2012/...ith-nets.html/

    "So then what?

    As it stands right now, the Mavericks’ roster includes Nowitzki, Shawn Marion, Brendan Haywood, Vince Carter, Roddy Beaubois, Dominique Jones, Brandan Wright and rookies Jared Cunningham, Jae Crowder and Bernard James.

    One source said the team is unlikely to offer big money to any other free agent, with the possible exception of Steve Nash, who already has been offered more than $30 million to sign in Toronto.

    Most likely, the Mavericks will aim to keep their free-agent money in the bank and save it for next summer, when Chris Paul, James Harden and possibly Dwight Howard are on the market."

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    i think dallas' plan if they DID sign nash, was just for 1 year. they're really after howard and cp3 next year now that deron is off the market.
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    Marc Stein: Mavs' PG priorities from here, sources say, are Nash and Jeremy Lin and re-signing J-Kidd. Team has not yet decided if it'll pursue Dragic Twitter
    Adrian Wojnarowski: Dallas is cautious about chasing Goran Dragic with a big offer, league source tells Y! Mavs aren't as high on him as Rockets, Suns, others. Twitter
    Can't see them not having interest in Dravic, but the short term offers would make sense with this

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    David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

    As Raptors, Knicks & Mavs-fight 4 Steve Nash, the Lakers have also quietly entered the picture & are making a hard push, per league source.
    Lakers entering the mix.

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    Opens the possibility of Nash, Kobe, and Dwight..

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    How sad would it be if Nash signed with Dallas, Dragic stayed in Houston, Kidd signs in Brooklyn (to backup Deron), and the Knicks hold onto Lin?

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it played out this way....
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    Houston getting ready to offer Lin a similar (poison pill) contract to the Asik one tomorrow. (Hoopshype). Fireworks in NY!

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Lakers entering the mix.
    If Colangelo doesn't seal the deal he's going to look like a fool with Landry on the books for so much money.
    • I don't fear the Lakers because seriously, what can they offer a rebuilding team that won't knock them out of contention?
    • I'm not fearing the Knicks after this Landry play.
    • I am fearing the Mavs.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    Houston getting ready to offer Lin a similar (poison pill) contract to the Asik one tomorrow. (Hoopshype). Fireworks in NY!
    lol, there's something strangely satisfying about seeing things sour in New York. Would love for them to lose out on both Nash and Lin.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    If Colangelo doesn't seal the deal he's going to look like a fool with Landry on the books for so much money.
    I have to imagine he's planned for that. Keep in mind that the offer sheet can't and won't be signed until July 11th.
    I'm sure Nash will have made up his mind by then.
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