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    When will we learn that BC isn't about addressing actual issues. He's a quick fix guy. Nash will increase revenues across the board while making us marginally better. It's his contract year and he wants to please the board. What better way then giving them huge increases in revenue, filling the seats, PR boosts, and perhaps a playoff appearence. 3 years down the road we will start "retooling" again. It's what this team is about.

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    Signing Nash for 3 years gives the Raptors a 3 year window to find the successor at the point. At the same time, having Nash man the point guard spot will allow our young players to grow. Think of guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, Q Rich, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Marcin Gortat, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Nash needs to be given some credit for making them look good, allowing these players to realize their potential, develop confidence and grow as players.

    On the business side, signing Nash would bring credibility to the franchise, fill up the seats and have other players / markets take notice of the Raptors. It's a wonderful marketing move that will pay dividends for the franchise.

    The biggest difference with Nash and Jose is Nash's ability to make something happen regardless of body position, regardless of what hand is controlling the ball, the ability to go left or right and break his man down without using a screen. Nash also is EXCELLENT at advancing the ball via pass leading to transition opportunities, which fits perfectly with our young athletic wings.

    There are many reasons why Nash would be beneficial for our struggling franchise in both basketball and business perspectives.
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    Quote torch19 wrote: View Post
    Signing Nash for 3 years gives the Raptors a 3 year window to find the successor at the point. At the same time, having Nash man the point guard spot will allow our young players to grow. Think of guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, Q Rich, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Marcin Gortat, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Nash needs to be given some credit for making them look good, allowing these players to realize their potential, develop confidence and grow as players.

    On the business side, signing Nash would bring credibility to the franchise, fill up the seats and have other players / markets take notice of the Raptors. It's a wonderful marketing move that will pay dividends for the franchise.

    The biggest difference with Nash and Jose is Nash's ability to make something happen regardless of body position, regardless of what hand is controlling the ball, the ability to go left or right and break his man down without using a screen. Nash also is EXCELLENT at advancing the ball via pass leading to transition opportunities, which fits perfectly with our young athletic wings.

    There are many reasons why Nash would be beneficial for our struggling franchise in both basketball and business perspectives.
    Agreed don't see how getting an average player like Lowry/Dragic is better than 3 years of a future hall of famer, that is 38 but the fitness level of a 25 year old.

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    Quote torch19 wrote: View Post
    Signing Nash for 3 years gives the Raptors a 3 year window to find the successor at the point. At the same time, having Nash man the point guard spot will allow our young players to grow. Think of guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, Q Rich, Grant Hill, Shawn Marion, Marcin Gortat, Leandro Barbosa, etc. Nash needs to be given some credit for making them look good, allowing these players to realize their potential, develop confidence and grow as players.

    On the business side, signing Nash would bring credibility to the franchise, fill up the seats and have other players / markets take notice of the Raptors. It's a wonderful marketing move that will pay dividends for the franchise.

    The biggest difference with Nash and Jose is Nash's ability to make something happen regardless of body position, regardless of what hand is controlling the ball, the ability to go left or right and break his man down without using a screen. Nash also is EXCELLENT at advancing the ball via pass leading to transition opportunities, which fits perfectly with our young athletic wings.

    There are many reasons why Nash would be beneficial for our struggling franchise in both basketball and business perspectives.
    +9999999999999999999 and Agrippa I agree with you also. We are not in a rush to get our point guard of the future and while Dragic and Lowry are good and relatively young point guards, I would wait because I'm sure we can get a better one in a 3 years span. Definitely. And guys we be talking about Steve Nash. 'Nuff said.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Short sited. We are going to end up in the position where we were with Bosh. 3 years and first or 2nd round at best. I'd much rather have someone who can be a long term solution like Dragic/Lowry.
    You're forgetting what he'll do to the development of JV, Demar, and Ross. He makes other players better around him. Overpaying? Yes. It's the cost of doing business. As for Dragic, Lowry and others, they're great PGs but they are not guarantees either. As an ambassador and someone that helps recruit free agents, why not. He's 38. Stop with the PER statistical BS. He's not being lured here for his defense, not as the Future answer to PG. Three years buys the franchise time to draft a PG next year and to be under him for the last two years of this contract. Its not our money, it's three years and this deal will not handcuff the franchise to make future signings. Everyone relax.
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    The Knicks offered him 5 million a year so it's looking like raptors are front runners at this point. Also hopefully next year we can get CJ McCollum in the draft and he'd be Nash's successor after learning from him for 2 years

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    Will he be a high draft pick? Because if Nash signs with the Raptors, they wont be getting any high draft picks

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    nets up tomorrow

    Marc Stein: After Raps and Knicks today, Nets have formally requested chance to sit down with Steve Nash as well. Meeting scheduled for Monday morning Twitte

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    If we sign Nash, I hope we can also sign Machado.

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    I was and am a big proponent of signing Nash.

    HOWEVER, I always thought around $10M per year. $2M is not a HUGE difference but it is a difference (20%).

    If the Raptors do this, I hope it is via sign and trade. If not, the off season is over unless someone is amnestied and say good-bye to the Barbosa TPE, MLE, Bayless' rights, Gray's rights, and Weems' rights.

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    Quote theycallmeZZ wrote: View Post
    If we sign Nash, I hope we can also sign Machado.
    As third string? Sure.

    I'd want someone with some more experience playing the primary backup (Augustin, Hinrich, etc. or even Bayless).

    Nash should only play about 30-32 minutes per game. That is a lot of backup time for an undrafted rookie.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I was and am a big proponent of signing Nash.

    HOWEVER, I always thought around $10M per year. $2M is not a HUGE difference but it is a difference (20%).

    If the Raptors do this, I hope it is via sign and trade. If not, the off season is over unless someone is amnestied and say good-bye to the Barbosa TPE, MLE, Bayless' rights, Gray's rights, and Weems' rights.
    They would have to renounce the rights to Bayless, Gray and Weems to make the offer if no one is amnestied?

    I don't know the numbers but I'd hate to see Jose amnestied as he is a really nice trade chip for teams looking for a PG or cap flexibility. Sure would be nice to see a Jose JJ and Davis for Deng type of deal if Nash was brought in.

    Nash/Bayless
    Demar/Ross/Forbes
    Deng/Kleiza
    Dre/Amir/Acy
    JV

    Sprinkle in some solid vets like Grant Hill (Nash connection), Jamal Maglore, Aaron Gray and a third string PG and that looks legit. No idea if it's even a possibility with the cap but it would be a nice roster for Casey to work with.

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    i think it was earlier in this thread when somebody said colangelo should let us in on the plans so we could give fan support. Is anyone reading the tweets from Rockets GM Morey? He is a new age (or unwise) gm

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    Way too excited about the idea of Steve Nash playing Toronto. I really feel we have a great chance of landing him. I also read somewhere that BC had Wayne Gretzky on speed dial to plead Nash to play for T. Dot?

    They are really serious about going after the 38 year old, but he has so much game left, fitness level of a 24 year old, one of the best point guards today and ever.

    Make it happen BC. If this goes through, I see a contract extension.

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    Default Who to believe?

    Sam Amick: Source confirms Toronto has offered Steve Nash a three-year, $36 million deal with no options attached. @ESPNSteinline had first. Twitter
    Marc Berman: Source repeats $36M offer to Steve Nash is "untrue.'' Won't say what offer was. Raptors may want the $36M number out there. Twitter
    I hope Berman is right.

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    Quote RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    Way too excited about the idea of Steve Nash playing Toronto. I really feel we have a great chance of landing him. I also read somewhere that BC had Wayne Gretzky on speed dial to plead Nash to play for T. Dot?

    They are really serious about going after the 38 year old, but he has so much game left, fitness level of a 24 year old, one of the best point guards today and ever.

    Make it happen BC. If this goes through, I see a contract extension.
    Unfortunately the decision might be made on the profitability of the club over the win/loss record.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Unfortunately the decision might be made on the profitability of the club over the win/loss record.
    Well, I mean, wheeling in Steve Nash is no easy feat. I just really hope this goes through.

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    TICKET SALES, that is all.

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    Default Raptors raising stakes.

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/0...s=iref:nbahpt1

    HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – If you thought three years and $34 million was too much for the Boston Celtics to offer Kevin Garnett at 36, you’re going to cringe at what the Toronto Raptors are reportedly offering Steve Nash, 38, to return home to his native Canada to continue his career.
    But if you feel the way we do about both of these NBA elder statesmen, the three years and $36 million the Raptors put on the table to Nash, per ESPN.com‘s Marc Stein, is right on the money for a player that could make the Raptors a factor in the Eastern Conference playoff chase as well as revive a franchise.
    The Raptors are just one of several teams believed to be in the running for Nash, who is also being courted in free agency by the Suns, Mavericks and Nets. But they are the only one of the four capable of offering the two-time MVP the chance to come home and put more than just his face on Canadian basketball for generations of fans both old and young.
    Nash playing for the home team would cause havoc, the good kind, for the Raptors. He would also be reunited with Raptors boss Bryan Colangelo, who as an executive in Phoenix years ago acquired Nash in free agency and set him on the path to those two MVPs.
    But there is work to be done if the Raptors want to make this hoop dream a reality:
    It has been widely anticipated that Phoenix would offer him a new two-year deal worth at least $20 million, but it remains to be seen how far Suns owner Robert Sarver will go when the bids start coming in.
    The Arizona Republic reported Friday night that the Suns “do not appear willing to meet (Nash’s) wish for a three-year deal” and Suns officials are already fighting the perception that they selected North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall with the 13th pick in Thursday night’s draft as the first step in dealing with Nash’s eventual departure.
    Nash earned nearly $12 million last season and averaged 12.5 points and 10.7 assists for a team that, with no 20-point scorer, nearly snagged the last playoff spot in the West.
    Nash was born in South Africa but is a Canadian citizen and was even hired in May as general manager of the Canadian men’s basketball team.
    This process will take better shape Monday, after Deron Williams meets with the Mavericks and Nets. If he makes an immediate decision about his future it should clear things up considerably for Nash, who has not set a timetable for finalizing his future plans.

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    Default Steve Nash - Offer analysed.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...pen-everything

    Some interesting quotes here that can really assure he is fit in Toronto.

    Nash said he worries about the possibility of taking less money to play for a team he believes is a contender, only for one of its top players to be injured -- or worse, for him to be traded.
    "The truth is I'm a bit old school. For me, it would be hard to put on a Lakers jersey. That's just the way it is," Nash said. "You play against them so many times in the playoffs, and I just use them as an example, and I have the utmost respect for them and their organization.
    "I kind of have that tendency (to try to beat the best teams), so it is strange, but as a free agent you're free to go where you want, so I'd have to consider everything regardless of the past or the future."
    Really open minded guy, but a video also stated that Toronto is in the driver's seat, with the money, story-line, roster, management, connections, the want for a three-year deal.. Everything looks good right now. Only thing we really don't have, is assurance of competing for a championship, one thing people feel Nash needs more than just, "playing basketball." BUT, the analysts mentioned, Toronto to be a probable playoff team, and stated "Now, keep in mind, you're in the Eastern Conference, with that talent and Steve Nash, you put Steve Nash with just about anybody, you're probably a playoff team in the Eastern Conference. I would say the Toronto Raptors are in the drivers seat...."

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81...al-sources-say

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