Scratch that, Barbosa is going to the Pacers, no word about what's coming back yet
Scratch that, Barbosa is going to the Pacers, no word about what's coming back yet
Please be a 2012 1st round pick! PLEASE!
"I don't lie. I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation." - Fox Mulder
Looks like it was a 2nd rounder (I'm assuming in 2012)
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...eandro-barbosa
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No worries.Matt52 wrote:
Here are my reasons...
1) I think Bledsoe can be a productive player and he already has a winning pedigee from his time in Kentucky. He's a pretty good defender, young and could be a decent replacement for Jose after some mentoring. Also he for some reason reminds me of Jrue Holiday.
2) More than anything else I brought it up because of DeRozan. I just don't see him in the same light I saw him last year. He's made no improvements, is slow to catch onto Casey's system, makes the same mistakes over and over again...I mean how does a guy that athletic get blocked and stripped as much as he does? For lack of a better word I don't find him dynamic enough to be an effective SG.
3) Imo if it came down to improving either the SG or SF spot, I'm inclined to riding it out with James Johnson at the 3 and bringing in a SG that can flat out score ie. Beal. I realize MKG could to be a star, but if he never improves his shooting you can draw some comparisons to what Johnson gives you now ie hard nosed defense and good motor.
I think a line up of Calderon/Bledsoe, Beal, Johnson, Bargnani, Val trumps one of Calderon, DeRozan, MKG, Bargnani, Val because there is too little offense produced from the DeRozan lineup which is something we are struggling with now and MKG would not improve in any way unless his shooting improves...thats a variable which you can't guarantee as of now.
That trade/draft scenario would address both an immediate need for offense which DeRoan or MKG would not provide as well as a future need to replace Calderon. Imo.
Wallace to New Jersey?Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Portland and New Jersey are engaged in advanced talks on a deal that would send Gerald Wallace to the Nets, a league source tells Y!
Barbosa to Indiana?
Raptors officially last in the Atlantic.
Come on, it was official on opening tip off.
Yeah, our roster is crap compared to others in the atlantic - but adding Jonas, another high pick and FAs could change that pretty fast.
I hope we bring LB back this summer!
The only way to bag a classy lady is to give her two tickets to the gun show... and see if she likes the goods.
Then Colangelo would have gotten a 2nd rounder for absolutely nothing essentially.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
The proposed 2012 draft pick the Nets would send to Blazers in Wallace deal would be protected only through the top 3 spots, sources tell Y!
Wow. This means, assuming the pick is for this year, that the Nets traded their own pick with top 3 protection. That means they did not trade the Houston pick - but their own - because Houston pick is top-14 protected.
Short-term gain for long-term pain?
Looks like the pick is for THIS year:
Wow - New Jersey will regret this, in my opinion.Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
The Nets send Okur, Shawne Williams and a 2012 draft pick protected thru No. 3, sources tell Y! Nets trying to surround Deron Williams now.
Last edited by Matt52; Thu Mar 15th, 2012 at 01:27 PM.
They're doing this to be proactive with D-Will. They want to keep him and it looks like they're going all in on it. If Williams stays in part because of this then job well done. They've been out on a wire ever since they traded for Williams with no guarantee that he re-signs. They need to keep going forward and stay committed to keeping him now. They're already in too deep to turn back. If there are regrets afterwards I think they should be focused on the trade for Williams, not Wallace. That's just my view on it.
WojYahooNBA:
Cleveland will get the Lakers 2012 first-round pick in the Ramon Sessions trade, league source tells Y! Brian Windhorst 1st reported deal.
WojYahooNBA:
The Lakers had been discussing a possible D.J Augustine trade with Charlotte before cutting the deal for Sessions, league sources tell Y!
The Lakers are doing a decent job of stocking up on younger talent by adding Sessions and potentially Beasley.
Portland really knows how to climb a draft... getting a top3 protected pick for Wallace! I wonder what additional salary they would have to take back with that pick.
So do I.
My concern is whether trading him to Indiana has reduced the chance of this happening. Has the trade increase or reduce Barbosa's goodwill towards Colangelo? Will Barbosa like Indiana enough to override any goodwill towards Colangelo?
I don't know. But it seems to me that trading Barbosa for something that can be purchased for cash is, at the end, nothing but just a move to increase the profitability of the franchise. It's a business so it's fair game but I bet Colangelo will try to spin it as if they got an asset in return.
i'm going to laugh long and hard when the ping pong balls fall and the nets pick 4th. i hope there's a cam devoted to the nets' GM's face.
@jerboat
The best part of the deal was that they got rid of benchwarmer extraordinaire Luke Walton.
The Wallace for a 1st rounder is by far the worst trade of the day!
100% agreed. Kupchak is one of the best in the game - if not the best. Everyone assumed he would use the TPE for Sessions and surrender a pick while doing it. Instead he lottery protects the pick and ditches Walton and his $6M contract for next year - incredible. Oh yeah, and don't forget that $6M is actually $12M with salary cap..... incredible.
Should be an interesting hour.
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