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    Default Trading to Free up $$ for Outright Signing of Wilson Chandler

    Ok, I have been watching the Pau Gasol rumour wire, but it still remains that the strongest desire-motivated suitor is Houston, but the Lakers don't seem to want Martin. Minnesota however does, and the Lakers had previously pursued Beasley (who Minny wants to ship out.)

    For the Raptors this is about prospects, picks and getting money free to sign Chandler now:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6qmhaxb

    TOR: DMorris, HOU or NYK 2012 1strd, TPE
    HOU: PGasol
    MIN: KMartin
    LAL: LScola, MBeasley, NPekovic, LBarbosa

    Houston really likes Gasol and HAVE ALREADY offered Scola, Martin, Dragic, and their pick for him (the failed Chris Paul trade), Adelman likes Martin and Minny needs a SG, the Lakers want Beasley, have been looking for a 3pt shooting bench spark plug for a while (Barbosa). They may need to ship out another piece to Houston to fit the number of players to the roster. Barnes would be the likely choice since this would need to be done before March 1st for this to work for the Raptors (although that part of the trade could go ahead now).

    Toronto gets a prospect PG with potential but backup at the most for now. The pick could be used on Lillard/Kabongo/Marshall, but ultimately this is about freeing up money to sign Chandler removing over $7M from the books NOW.

    2012
    PG: JCalderon, Lillard/Kabongo/Marshall, DMorris
    SG: WChandler, DD, Forbes
    SF: Barnes/MKG/Miller, JJ, Kleiza
    PF: Bargnani, ED, Amir
    C: JVal, AGray (re-sign), Alabi

    ...and then!!...
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    Now then a next step could be something like:

    TOR: Batum, another player (post Mar. 1st) to fill out the salary match
    POR: DD, ED, TOR 2013 1st

    2012 DRAFT: Sullinger (and a PG or other prospect with the pick secured above) or JLamb/ARivers/BBeal etc.

    PG: JCalderon, Lillard/Kabongo/Marshall, DMorris
    SG: NBatum, Forbes
    SF: WChandler, JJ, Kleiza
    PF: Bargnani, Sullinger, Amir
    C: JVal, AGray, Alabi (Amir)
    Would look to sign a bench SG with the mid-level exception or a PF if the draft yields a JLamb or the like. Sullinger would be a change of pace from Bargnani. Giving me a laugh with a Sullinger/Gray front court the opposing teams could be leaving with some serious bruises...

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    Denver is not going to help Toronto out to be friendly, they need something out of it. Denver has a shortage at PF and an over abundance at C. Maybe they do this:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7hboghw

    Toronto: Miller
    Denver: Calderon, Davis


    OR

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6oq5fjt

    Toronto: Miller, Andersen
    Denver: Calderon, Amir, Alabi


    OR

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6oasaom

    Toronto: Anderson, Hamilton
    Denver: Barbosa, Davis


    OR

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6rsf6gq

    Toronto: Anderson, Hamilton
    Denver: Barbosa, Amir


    Toronto also has future picks or the 2012 2nd round pick to offer in any trade - not just the above.

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    Denver is not in the trades above and have no say if the Raptors offer above what they hope to pay so not a factor.

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    Quote Maleko wrote: View Post
    Denver is not in the trades above and have no say if the Raptors offer above what they hope to pay so not a factor.
    I just copied and pasted from another thread. It would be a way to get around the no sign and trade.

    Obviously Denver would have to be on board to do these.

    I'm not sure how much they want to keep him though. If that letter of clearance comes before March 1st, he can just sign the qualifying offer and become UFA this summer. He'll be so bitter with the way things have gone he'll walk for nothing.

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    This post originally came from here:

    Things have changed since I originally thought of this trade. Trading Gray after March 1st is not going to happen because it doesn't help Toronto get cap space to sign WC before March 1st.


    Trade 1: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7r6elnq

    ATL: Barbosa
    TOR: Morris, 2012 2nd round picks from Hawks (PHX)
    LAL: Hinrich


    Trade 2:

    LAL: Calderon
    TOR: Hinrich, 2012 1st round pick from LAL (one of DAL or LAL)

    The second trade on the trade machine link has Atlanta but that is to only show that the trade does satisfy the number requirements of the CBA. Essentially, the Lakers immediately send Hinrich to Toronto for Calderon. Remember individual players can be traded on their own an infinite number of times which is why Q. Richardson was traded 5 or 6 times in the summer of 2010.


    Both trades combined (i.e. looking at the final result) would look like this:

    ATL: Barbosa,
    LAL: Calderon
    TOR: Morris, Hinrich, 1st round pick from Lakers in 2012


    Toronto gains another $8.3M in cap space in addition to the $4.3 they have. They can make an offer to WC that gives Denver reason to rethink keeping him. Toronto has a prospect PG in Morris and a veteran in Hinrich.

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    Here is a way to gain back $4M in cap space to get us to about $8.3M, and is a slight adjustment to my initial wet-dream trade, without using Denver's services:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7phd3l6

    Toronto: Nash, MWP, LAL pick
    Phoenix: Bayless, Davis, Barnes, Toronto's 2013 pick
    LAL: Calderon, Beasley
    Minnesota: Barbosa

    Phoenix may not do this, but getting 2 expiring contracts, the potential in Davis and Bayless, plus a 2013 pick may be the best deal they get for a 38 year old Nash who could end up as a UFA. LAL is interested in Beasley through rumours.. in exchange Minny gets guard depth that they need who is also an expiring. Toronto sheds an additional $4M so they can get Chandler, and can draft Kabongo with LA's pick.

    The bad part of this deal is having to deal with MWP's salary. You could use Walton instead of MWP, but then LA has to get rid of another player (like Goudelock or Morris).

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    Quote planetmars wrote: View Post
    Here is a way to gain back $4M in cap space to get us to about $8.3M, and is a slight adjustment to my initial wet-dream trade, without using Denver's services:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7phd3l6

    Toronto: Nash, MWP, LAL pick
    Phoenix: Bayless, Davis, Barnes, Toronto's 2013 pick
    LAL: Calderon, Beasley
    Minnesota: Barbosa

    Phoenix may not do this, but getting 2 expiring contracts, the potential in Davis and Bayless, plus a 2013 pick may be the best deal they get for a 38 year old Nash who could end up as a UFA. LAL is interested in Beasley through rumours.. in exchange Minny gets guard depth that they need who is also an expiring. Toronto sheds an additional $4M so they can get Chandler, and can draft Kabongo with LA's pick.

    The bad part of this deal is having to deal with MWP's salary. You could use Walton instead of MWP, but then LA has to get rid of another player (like Goudelock or Morris).
    Do it BC. Make this happen. Especially with the extra notion of adding Kabongo, if decides to stay, maybe we hit on Teague.

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