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Thread: Larry Bird is VERY open to taking on added salary...Barbosa???

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    Default Larry Bird is VERY open to taking on added salary...Barbosa???

    This is from an interview with Bird on NBA.com

    How rewarding is it for you to see this plan come together?
    "It was a long, tough three years for me. Once Donnie (Walsh) left, I knew the situation. When I talked to the owners I had a vision of how I wanted to do it. Out of the 13 guys, 12 of them are ones I brought here. So I have a sense of the type of player I want and what type of team I like to see play -- not only for me but for the franchise. We want to continue to get better, we want to continue to draft well and we're still looking. We've got $15 million under the cap and I'm not afraid to make another move now to strengthen our bench or maybe even (add) one or two guys. We're still out there looking and whatever we can do to make this team better, we're going to do."
    Does the team's success thus far have any impact on how you approach the trade deadline, in terms of your interest in pursuing more changes?
    "I'm going continue to do whatever I can to make this team better. If I see a player out there I think can make us better, I'm going to go ahead and make the move. It could be a trade, but it's probably going to be picking up somebody off another team just so they can get some money off (the salary cap). We've got a lot of calls in, talked to a lot of people and we're going to try to continue to strengthen this team."
    First off, I'm not saying that the Pacers want Barbosa or any other Raptor, but this is promising if indeed Toronto wants Wilson Chandler this season.

    What do you guys think? Is there anyone the Pacers might want that Toronto would be willing to part with in order to get Chandler?

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    Amir? West is a going injury concern, and psycho T could be outplayed for minutes by Amir
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    Amir AND Barbosa??

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    My only thinking is that they wouldn't take Barbosa because they already have George Hill. Amir is interesting though.

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    or the mystical collison for calderon trade
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    Sounds like the Pacers might be the perfect dance partner as a third wheel in a S&T for Chandler.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    or the mystical collison for calderon trade
    Here's Collison's salary:

    $1,455,960 - (This season)
    $2,319,344 - Next Season
    $3,342,174 - (2013-14)

    I think if Indiana wanted to do this trade, Toronto would accept in a heartbeat.

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    Calderon and a second rounder for Collison. Bang we got our PG of the future

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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Calderon and a second rounder for Collison. Bang we got our PG of the future
    I like this trade for the Raptors, but if you're Larry Bird, do you think this makes your team better?

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    Quote 10 000 Hours wrote: View Post
    I like this trade for the Raptors, but if you're Larry Bird, do you think this makes your team better?
    i think it would. Better passer to get your players better looks

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    Is Collison a better PG than Calderon? Younger and more athletic, but not as good a shooter, or passer. I don't know if he is enough of an upgrade to warrant making that trade. Calderon can play at the level he's playing at for another 2 - 3 years before a significant drop off which is better production than what Collison can give you.

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    People who think Calderon is a liability on defense and want to trade him for Collison might become seriously dissapointed.

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    Quote 10 000 Hours wrote: View Post
    My only thinking is that they wouldn't take Barbosa because they already have George Hill. Amir is interesting though.
    And yet they are very interested in Eric Gordon. Trading for Barbosa maintains their cap flexibility to go for Gordan, an Indy native, in the summer, while bolstering the wing in a strong season this year.

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    To be honest I am not sold on Collison for the long term. He is relatively small & light (like a TJ). All the top guards in the league are taller & heavier. He gets physically handled fairly often to have to give up the ball or turn it over when I have seen Indy's games.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    To be honest I am not sold on Collison for the long term. He is relatively small & light (like a TJ). All the top guards in the league are taller & heavier. He gets physically handled fairly often to have to give up the ball or turn it over when I have seen Indy's games.
    Collison is taller than CP3 and Lawson. Same height as Rondo.

    Much lighter than Lawson and just a touch lighter than CP3 and Rondo.

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    I would like collison on the raps but idk if the Pacers would do it

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    You guys are going to be very dissappointed with Collision. To start with, how does an NBA-caliber point guard average only 5 APG in a simple PnR offense such as the Pacers? Oh, and he also has the added luxury of playing with sharpshooting Paul George and Danny Granger.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Collison is taller than CP3 and Lawson. Same height as Rondo.

    Much lighter than Lawson and just a touch lighter than CP3 and Rondo.
    NBA.com lists Rondo as 26 lbs heavier & Paul as 15 more that Collison. That kind of weight diff. and more so if its muscle weight I think makes a difference going inside/posting. And of course we also have the skill set differences....and I also remember well how he played when CP3 was out so I am surprised he hasnt shown better in Indy. Of course if he had we wouldnt be discussing him now :-)

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    You guys are crazy, Calderon is among the best pick and roll guys in the game and I would argue that he is currently the best after Nash and maybe Paul. He only has a year left on his contract. You want to move him for Collison and a second? I might take Collison and a first but come on, the guy only gets 5 assists a game on a team that is way better than the Raps.
    This team needs a great set up guy to succeed: Jose is that guy. Everyone wants to get an all star point but they forget that when this team was in the playoffs and had Bosh, Jose was basically on that level and was snubbed. We put the right guys around him, and Jose will lead us to a title, he is that good.
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    Quote hateslosing wrote: View Post
    You guys are crazy, Calderon is among the best pick and roll guys in the game and I would argue that he is currently the best after Nash and maybe Paul. He only has a year left on his contract. You want to move him for Collison and a second? I might take Collison and a first but come on, the guy only gets 5 assists a game on a team that is way better than the Raps.
    This team needs a great set up guy to succeed: Jose is that guy. Everyone wants to get an all star point but they forget that when this team was in the playoffs and had Bosh, Jose was basically on that level and was snubbed. We put the right guys around him, and Jose will lead us to a title, he is that good.
    I agree. With how well Calderon is playing right now, coupled with his on-court leadership and calming influence, I wouldn't deal him for anything less than a 1st round pick or a proven young player. For me, as much as I was hoping for the Raps to get Collison last season, I would be disappointed getting him and a 2nd round pick for Calderon.

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