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ESPN Insider: Small trades, big impact - Jose Calderon for Devin Harris
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I know Jose's been a really nice guy and very loyal to the organization, but ive come to realize that at the end of the day, the NBA is less basketball/camaraderie now and more of a business, so if it nets the Raps a high pick in expense of Jose then i think they really need to do it.
What im hoping for then later on is when Jose's contract expires, the Raps will offer him say 10mil for 5 years and he eventually retires as a Raptor and gets a job with the organization in player development or as a scout in europe.
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I don't think Calderon specifically asked to be traded. He was asked by some Spanish media (I think) about his feelings "IF" he was traded to a contender, and like any normal human being, Calderon said he would embrace it....or something along those lines. He didn't exactly pull a Dwight Howard.Last edited by Nilanka; Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:29 PM.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI don't think Calderon specifically asked to be traded. He was asked me some Spanish media (I think) about his feelings "IF" he was traded to a contender, and like any normal human being, Calderon said he would embrace it....or something along those lines. He didn't exactly pull a Dwight Howard.
Yes I remember that thread. JC seems to always answer forthrightly. He could (like many others) have said something droll like "It's not my decision" yada yada
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tbihis wrote: View PostWhat im hoping for then later on is when Jose's contract expires, the Raps will offer him say 10mil for 5 years and he eventually retires as a Raptor and gets a job with the organization in player development or as a scout in europe.your pal,
ebrian
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ebrian wrote: View PostHe's overpaid now and you want to give him the same money 2 years from now?Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
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ceez wrote: View PostHow soon people forget Calderon asking to be traded to a contender.
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CT2010 wrote: View PostThis is not factual. He said he would like to play on a contending team. Didn't mention it being a different team and that quote was a very small clip from a longer interview in Spanish and could have been taken completely out of context and translated poorly. He has never been the type to ask for anything but rather he has done whatever the team has asked of him without complaint. It doesn't seem likely that given that he has volunteered to be a bench player on two separate occasions for the good of the team that he all of a sudden would come out and demand a trade does it? Devin Harris is a terrible fit for the Raptors and I like Jose on the team and think he could have a role in the rebuild as a mentor/back up PG for a young developing guard. Also I haven't seen a thing on Myck all season and didn't think he was projected to go nearly as high as 11 or 12 more like late 20's or second round, does anyone have any info to the contrary?
- he didn't ask to be traded. Question asked was would he like to play for a contender - if he said no there would be a bigger problem.
- Devin Harris straight up for Calderon is an awful deal.
- Myck is definitely not a 11/12 pick. The lowest I saw him was around 15-17 and that was weeks ago at DraftExpress. They currently dropped him from the 2012 mock draft.
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jimmie wrote: View PostI think maybe he was suggesting $2M/per for 5. Which I think is too low, but I agree with the principle. If Toronto could have Calderon starting next year and possibly the following year, while grooming a younger point, and if he'd sign for MLE-type money over a 3-year contract, I would be all for that.
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jimmie wrote: View PostI think maybe he was suggesting $2M/per for 5. Which I think is too low, but I agree with the principle. If Toronto could have Calderon starting next year and possibly the following year, while grooming a younger point, and if he'd sign for MLE-type money over a 3-year contract, I would be all for that.
Unfortunately, that is not going to happen and injuries will always be my concern with him. For all the arguments of how he makes players better, he is not going to help anyone getting treatment in practice and sitting on the bench during games.
A healthy Calderon at $5M per year would be great - especially with a younger PG being groomed.
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I honestly don't see an injury issue; it's always been overblown, IMO. Missing 10-15 games a season is worth it for what he brings, and especially if his minutes are declining as the new PG develops.
His minutes at the international level will also inevitably continue to decline as they have been since Rubio took over as the lead guard for Spain.Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures.
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jimmie wrote: View PostI honestly don't see an injury issue; it's always been overblown, IMO. Missing 10-15 games a season is worth it for what he brings, and especially if his minutes are declining as the new PG develops.
His minutes at the international level will also inevitably continue to decline as they have been since Rubio took over as the lead guard for Spain.
No doubt Rubio will be the lead guard but Jose will still have a very important role to play with Spain's national team for the foreseeable future - ironically barring injury.
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