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    Default Wolstat: Barbosa wants to stay long term

    Ryan Wolstat ‏ @WolstatSun
    Also Barbosa told me he loves Toronto and preference would be to re-sign long-term. He recently changed agents but wouldn't say why #Raptors


    First time I have heard of Barbosa wanting to stay long-term...... you learn something new everyday.

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    Sign me up, 20 mill over 4 years and I'm super happy. Guy is a super good bench player who accepts his role.
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    Amen! I'm all for locking him up if he really wants to be here and 5 mil sounds about right.

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    Quote hateslosing wrote: View Post
    Sign me up, 20 mill over 4 years and I'm super happy. Guy is a super good bench player who accepts his role.
    as long as his role is shoot everytime you touch the ball. i would be more than happy to trade him to another team and look for another 6th man. just as an idea a james harden type player, just a name i threw out and in no reality would i think we had a chance to get him. one who can lead the second unit and do whatever is needed. you dont need to worry about safe players like that shooting you out of games.

    for every game that barbosa keeps us in or wins he also kills us one game. don't like gambling like that.

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    im kewl with 5 mil too.... guys like james harden would cost much more than that, and deserve to be starters..... its hard to find guys who are willing to sit on a bench and play that well.

    Barbosa plays pretty decent, and for 5 mill, him a kleiza plus some other peices would be a fine bench.... we juss u know need some better starters, at SG, SF, and Center.... since caldy and bargs could start for a decent chunk of teams in this league as is, the other guys not so much......

    barbosa on a good team would be perfectly fine to be a nice spark, its just on this team alot of time we need to flat out expect him to make up something or juss seem another guys shoot another brick -_-

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    Quote hateslosing wrote: View Post
    Sign me up, 20 mill over 4 years and I'm super happy. Guy is a super good bench player who accepts his role.
    I agree with you that he is a very good player that we should be desperate to sign, but only at the right price. We need to figure out how much this guy is worth and not give him a penny more than market value - especially with the new economic realities of the NBA. Championship teams can't afford to pay a premium to sign players under a cap system. If he won't sign here he needs to find that Italian suit wearing guy that gave him that last fat contract and sign with him. The fans have to start giving management hell for overpaying players - look how much JR Smith signed with NY for? How many players on the Raptors are overpaid? If he won't sign trade him; we will spend the next 5 years trying to find a replacement for him - thank you very much. He would be a real catch for a contending team but don't think we would get real value for him. I would like to see him on a longer term contract also as I really believe in locking up good players and players with good contracts for a longer time period!

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    not down for 5 million, he is a fading talent and he's a black hole at times.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    First time I have heard of Barbosa wanting to stay long-term...... you learn something new everyday.
    He is inside the team and sees how good is everything there. Casey, McKechnie, organization as a whole, and nice building team heading the right direction. Too bad other players in US can't see that. I hope it will change next season with JV, another pick and Bargnani crashing everyone around. We need to make somehow us players next offseason, we will have more chance to lure big names than now.

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    Quote irgigi wrote: View Post
    He is inside the team and sees how good is everything there. Casey, McKechnie, organization as a whole, and nice building team heading the right direction. Too bad other players in US can't see that. I hope it will change next season with JV, another pick and Bargnani crashing everyone around. We need to make somehow us players next offseason, we will have more chance to lure big names than now.
    it is all about winning. we were big time with the quitter and except for ignorant antonio davis, toronto was the place. barbosa is brazilian not american.

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    Call me a pessimist, but this could be a result of Barbosa's (ex) agent trying to facilitate a trade to a contender and finding no takers, so Barbosa is now just trying to secure a deal...It seems strange that he would complain about our winters, talk about how sad he was to have to leave home and come back after the lockout ended and then want to sign long-term...His agent's failure to get him moved to a contender and/or warmer climate would also explain why he is changing agents.

    Having said all that I hope I am dead wrong and he gets traded for something before the deadline, the Raps could always re-sign him in the off-season anyways.

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    Quote SweetRiverBaines wrote: View Post
    Call me a pessimist, but this could be a result of Barbosa's (ex) agent trying to facilitate a trade to a contender and finding no takers, so Barbosa is now just trying to secure a deal...It seems strange that he would complain about our winters, talk about how sad he was to have to leave home and come back after the lockout ended and then want to sign long-term...His agent's failure to get him moved to a contender and/or warmer climate would also explain why he is changing agents.

    Having said all that I hope I am dead wrong and he gets traded for something before the deadline, the Raps could always re-sign him in the off-season anyways.
    barbosa wasnt upset he had to come back to our canadian winter... he was upset that after years of playing around xmas time he ws finlly going to be able to spend xmas with his family.... then that all changed with the end of the lockout..

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    First time I have heard of Barbosa wanting to stay long-term...... you learn something new everyday.
    Had he not said that he wanted to be back but ended up signing at a fair price I would not have minded so this doesn't change anything for me but it's nice to hear him say that. It must mean Casey and company are building a good locker room.

    If Barbosa comes back then Bayless is as good as gone.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Had he not said that he wanted to be back but ended up signing at a fair price I would not have minded so this doesn't change anything for me but it's nice to hear him say that. It must mean Casey and company are building a good locker room.

    If Barbosa comes back then Bayless is as good as gone.
    There will be tears should that occur...... of joy.

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    Quote Matt52 wrote: View Post
    There will be tears should that occur...... of joy.
    Agreed ... everyone who said he should be given the reigns this year over Calderon, raise your hand ... where are you?
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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Agreed ... everyone who said he should be given the reigns this year over Calderon, raise your hand ... where are you?
    One right here.

    Neither Calderon or Bayless are part of the future it would appear so I don't think it really makes a difference - except in raising Calderon's trade value...... so maybe it did make a difference, nevermind.

    The whole point in starting him was to find out what he could do and not do. I think, despite not starting, that has been accomplished.

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    Quote Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Agreed ... everyone who said he should be given the reigns this year over Calderon, raise your hand ... where are you?
    I was one too. But like Matt said, it wasn't because I thought Bayless was a good PG, but it was to test IF Bayless was capable of playing PG. And in a season where wins weren't desired, I didn't see any harm in giving Bayless minutes to see what we had in him (if anything).

    Yes, Calderon has arguably increased his trade value while logging heavy minutes this season, but unless a trade is actually consummated, increased trade value does nothing for the Raptors.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Had he not said that he wanted to be back but ended up signing at a fair price I would not have minded so this doesn't change anything for me but it's nice to hear him say that. It must mean Casey and company are building a good locker room.

    If Barbosa comes back then Bayless is as good as gone.
    That's the hope.

    My guess is Barbosa will sign a 3-year extension worth $12 to 15 millions.

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    If it's up to me I'd move Barbosa before the deadline for a pick or a decent young prospect. I wouldn't be looking to resign him as by the time the team is ready to compete he'll be a none factor. I'd rather go after a player like OJ Mayo at 5-7 million a year then Barbosa to fill the bench scoring role. I like Barbosa as a person/teammate but I think we can get someone to fill the leadership role at a significantly less salary and invest those dollars in a player who fits in better with the core going forward.

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    The fact that Barbosa is injury prone is something that I am scared of. We have dodged a bullet this year with him being relatively healthy so far, but given his recent history that could change anytime. Barbosa is a very solid scorer, but that is about it. He is not much of a facilitator or defensive presence, so is not really needed on a rebuilding team at this time. I rather take my chance on a younger replacement and hope he is able to bring another element to the team off the bench. I'd be fine with trading him or letting him walk at the end of the season and handing over the 6th man role to Bayless to see if he claim that role in a contract year.

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    Quote Phat Farmer wrote: View Post
    The fact that Barbosa is injury prone is something that I am scared of. We have dodged a bullet this year with him being relatively healthy so far, but given his recent history that could change anytime. Barbosa is a very solid scorer, but that is about it. He is not much of a facilitator or defensive presence, so is not really needed on a rebuilding team at this time. I rather take my chance on a younger replacement and hope he is able to bring another element to the team off the bench. I'd be fine with trading him or letting him walk at the end of the season and handing over the 6th man role to Bayless to see if he claim that role in a contract year.
    Bayless has serious problems finishing around the rim... if were to expect Derozn to be around for the future we need someone to come of the bench behind him... not many younger players would enjoy being bench fodder for there carreer, barbosa is a solid 6th man & at a price less then 5mill.. say 4mill. id be ok with him staying around.. just not at what hes making now...

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