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    At the end of the season, Raptors can pick up their team option for Solomon Alabi, witch is worth 890 000$. If you were Bryan Colangelo, would you re-sign him, or would you rather get another 3rd center via free agency or via your second round draft pick?

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    At this point, he seems like a waste of a roster spot. It doesn't feel like there is much motivation to groom him into a serviceable NBA player, or whether he's even capable of becoming one.
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    I was hopeful that we would see Alabi get some playing time this season, to see what potential he has to be part of the team's future. Given the fact that he hasn't earned any playing time, even on this team in a lost season, I fully expect he's done after this season (just another in a long line of project C's this team has seen come and go over the years). Personally, I wouldn't waste another cent on him, I'd take my chances with some other prospect or min-wage vet.

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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    At this point, he seems like a waste of a roster spot. It doesn't feel like there is much motivation to groom him into a serviceable NBA player, or whether he's even capable of becoming one.
    I kinda agree, but since we won't make the playoffs this season anyway, I'd like to see what he can do on the floor for a real 20 minutes. Even when Bargnani is not there, Casey does not put him on the court...

    And CalgaryRaps Fan, I agree too. I looked at some nba mock drafts, and there is this canadian center named Robert Sacre who is projected in the beginning of the second round. If saw him play a bit last year and I think we could take a chance on him.
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    I was hoping he'd get some playing time, but I think Casey is sending a message that Alabi isn't part of this teams future.
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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    I kinda agree, but since we won't make the playoffs this season anyway, I'd like to see what he can do on the floor for a real 20 minutes. Even when Bargnani is not there, Casey does not put him on the court...

    And CalgaryRaps Fan, I agree too. I looked at some nba mock drafts, and there is this canadian center named Robert Sacre who is projected in the beginning of the second round. If saw him play a bit last year and I think we could take a chance on him.
    Would love to see Sacre is a Raps uni, tough SOB

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    At this point, i think most of us are saying no right? I'm definitely on this side of the debate but I can't help but see what Ian Mahinmi is doin in Dallas this year...same type of player/situation. Solo might be worth Jamaal Magloire's spot on the roster next year for that price, give him another summer league and training camp, you never know. I think I read somewhere that Alabi didn't even start playing til he was 17 or something...

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    Quote IROR wrote: View Post
    At this point, i think most of us are saying no right? I'm definitely on this side of the debate but I can't help but see what Ian Mahinmi is doin in Dallas this year...same type of player/situation. Solo might be worth Jamaal Magloire's spot on the roster next year for that price, give him another summer league and training camp, you never know. I think I read somewhere that Alabi didn't even start playing til he was 17 or something...
    We've seen enough C projects like Alabi... they're a dime-a-dozen
    - Mamadou N'Diaye
    - Nathan Jawaii
    - Patrick O'Bryant
    - Pape Sow
    - Yogi Stewart
    - Loren Woods
    - Alexis Ajinca

    Assuming Valanciunas and Gray are the top 2 C next season, I'd either roll the dice with a new prospect or keep an ultra-cheap veteran around (ie: I'd rather keep Magloire as the 3rd string C next season than Alabi).

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    Ok so let's see the options, assuming we are getting our 3rd center via 2nd round draft pick or a veteran:
    Centers who are projected in the second round of the draft:
    Festus Ezeli from Vanderbilt
    Jeff Withey from Kansas
    Robert Sacre from Gonzaga (Canadian)
    Ognjen Kuzmic from Malaga (Spain)
    Dusan Cantekin from Mega Vizura (Serbia) That dude is 7'4.

    Centers who are currently in the NBA and who are FA this summer and that could fill that 3rd center spot:
    Jamaal Magloire (Canadian, currently with the team)
    Tony Battie
    Eddy Curry
    Jason Collins
    Hasheem Thabeet
    Hamed Haddadi
    Daniel Orton
    Solomon Alabi
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    I dont even think we can comment on Alabi since nobody's seen him play this season.

    Is that saying he's a lot worse than POB? At least POB got minutes when he was here.

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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Ok so let's see the options, assuming we are getting our 3rd center via 2nd round draft pick or a veteran:
    Centers who are projected in the beginning of the second round of the draft:
    Festus Ezeli from Vanderbilt
    Jeff Withey from Kansas
    Robert Sacre from Gonzaga (Canadian)

    Centers who are currently in the NBA and who are FA this summer and that could fill that 3rd center spot:
    Jamaal Magloire (Canadian, currently with the team)
    Tony Battie
    Eddy Curry
    Jason Collins
    Hasheem Thabeet
    Hamed Haddadi
    Daniel Orton
    Solomon Alabi
    What about Earl Barron? Didnt he average a double-double at some point with NYK?

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    We can certainly comment on Alabi. He's 95% likely not even an NBA 3rd-string C and 99% won't be with the Raptors next year. Go to Europe, Solo, make some money.

    "We" (the fans) don't need to see any of these end-of-benchers play to see what they can do. 20 minutes a game to Alabi??? Please. The coaches see him every day, and they're much better judges of NBA talent than any of us will ever be, regardless of what our egos might tell us. If he's not playing, there's a reason, and I don't need to see him struggling out there and ruining the game for everyone else just to prove it to me.

    And why would anyone assume Toronto is after a 3rd-string C anyway? Valanciunas and Gray will likely get the bulk of the minutes, with a sprinkling of Amir. If anything, they should keep Magloire as that in-a-pinch guy.

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    Do we even need a 3rd center?
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Do we even need a 3rd center? Miami barely has one.
    They do have a 3rd-stringer, but he's starting (Joel Anthony). ;-)
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    Quote Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Do we even need a 3rd center?
    Well I think it's important go have some insurance behind your core, in case of injuries. Call up a dleague guy does not seem to be the best option to me, since he won't know any of the plays and strategies.

    Jimmie, I did not say 20 minutes a game for Alabi. I meant maybe one or two games, just to see what he got. But like you said, who are we to know if a guy deserves his spot on a team. There are Gms and coaches for this. But why not discuss about the future of the team we love so much?

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    We need a third big next season. With Jonas and Aaron we have two centers. I can see us trading Amir or Ed which leaves us with only 2 PFs including Andrea. An injury to one or two of them would leave us short. I would keep Magloire if he keeps competing with the youngsters or draft at second-round for PF/C.

    I haven't seen Alabi play but Casey doesn't like him over Magloire which tells me he is no good. A move back to Europe - perhaps the Lithuanian league- could help him turn this around.

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    I think Casey should give him the opportunity to show if he can play basketball or not before his contract ends
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    if Ed and Amir are on the roster, whats the point? if either are gone, sure.
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    Quote charlesnba23 wrote: View Post
    Ok so let's see the options, assuming we are getting our 3rd center via 2nd round draft pick or a veteran:
    Centers who are projected in the second round of the draft:
    Festus Ezeli from Vanderbilt
    Jeff Withey from Kansas
    Robert Sacre from Gonzaga (Canadian)
    Ognjen Kuzmic from Malaga (Spain)
    Dusan Cantekin from Mega Vizura (Serbia) That dude is 7'4.

    Centers who are currently in the NBA and who are FA this summer and that could fill that 3rd center spot:
    Jamaal Magloire (Canadian, currently with the team)
    Tony Battie
    Eddy Curry
    Jason Collins
    Hasheem Thabeet
    Hamed Haddadi
    Daniel Orton
    Solomon Alabi
    I don't mind seeing Hasheem Thabeet here if we don't resign Jamaal. Young project, and was the highest draft pick to be sent down to the d-league.

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    Quote ceez wrote: View Post
    if Ed and Amir are on the roster, whats the point? if either are gone, sure.
    This is my thought, Ed, Amir, Andrea, Jonas, and Aaron are 5 bigs that all should be able to handle minutes at the 2 big positions, add in a Old Vet or a another second round project and we are in fine shape.

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